Posted by -STUCK- Mutation Suggestions Masterpost - Spoilers

Xylax (#4)

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2016-09-02 00:45:59
WARNING - ALL LINKS ON THE LIST MAY CONTAIN DISTURBING PHOTOS OF MUTATED INDIVIDUALS. YOU ARE OPENING THE PHOTOS WITH RISK OF SEEING SOMETHING THAT MIGHT UPSET YOU. THESE ARE ACTUAL PHOTOS AND NOT SOFTENED DRAWINGS OF CUTE BABBY LIONS

These are suggestions accepted, planned or considered with very high chance of success.
All approved mutations (or partially approved threads) receive a [vv] symbol. Duplicates I will just lock cause no point for me to have more than 1 of the same suggestion - don't get upset your suggestion is locked and other isn't - the idea is the same and it won, that's what counts!

If I did not approve your mutation it means I am thinking about it, waiting for more player thoughts or I didn't see it yet :o
2020 note: I stopped updating this thread too often, but did a clean up in May

Also, we have some mutations planned or are thinking about some, that aren't on the list, such as sub-mutations, rare conditions, spoilers that would ruin fun or challenges we're unsure of.

Visible since birth


Hairless - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Hairy Tail - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Ear Tufts - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Polydactyly - could give stat boost on birth - Art change: Birth to Adult. Possible pose preference to show off paws at nicer angle.
Brachycephaly - (1 mane version) - Game Effect: like Blind - Art change: Birth to Adult
Syndactyly - LINK - Game Effect: like Blind - Art change: Birth to Adult
Cleft Nose - LINK - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult. Possible pose preference to show off nose at nicer angle.
Double Ears - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Curled Tail - LINK - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Arachnodactyly - Game Effect: stat penalty on birth - Art change: Birth to Adult
Double Canines - game effect: hunting/patrolling/battling boosts - Art change: Lineart only, cub to adult.
Cutaneous Asthenia - Limbs that look like wings - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Leucism - like Achromia and just cover the lion with half transparent light version - Art change: Lineart Cover only, cub to adult.
Erythrism - all the dark colours have red/yellow tint - no game effect - Art change: marking recolours for all stages

Primordial Dwarfism - Game Effect: Pygmy lions, adults looking a bit like cubs still - works like Blind + cannot even breed. Dies early at 6-8 years. Big stat penalty.


Visible at Adulthood


Acromegaly - very overgrown lion, 1mane version for any type. Art change: Adult Female/Male stages different - no game effect
Overgrown Tongue - no game effect - Art change: different lineart
Excess fur for males - Hypertrichosis - planned as an applicator to match Overgrown Fur on females. Art change: Adult Male stage different. 1 mane version for any type.
Roman Nose - no game effect - Art change: Adult Female/Male stages altered. Possible pose preference to show off the nose at nicer angler.


Can show at cub-teen stages


Curly Fur - LINK - no game effect - shows at 1 year - Art change: Base only, Teen to Adult. 1 mane version.
Elongated Tail - Art change: only tail art altered - shows at 3 months - no game effect


LETHAL


Those cubs will be removed from Cub Training
Phocomelia - deformed limbs - dies at 3 months - Art: 1 Cub version
Progeria - aging super fast - dies at 1.5 year (can’t age with item) - Art: Cub and Teen versions, Cub Newborn and Young slightly altered lineart.
Amelia - lacking limbs - dies at 2 months - Art: 1 Cub version
Cebocephaly - LINK - eyes close together, squished face - dies at 2 months - Art: 1 Cub version
Noseless - LINK dies at 2 months - Art: 1 Cub version

Proteus Syndrome - whole body deformation - game effect: can’t hunt or patrol, can’t be retired into. Health messages through life - dies randomly between 2 to 8 years - Art change: Birth to Adult
Radial Hypoplasia - aka Squitten - causes short legs while hind legs are long. Cannot hunt, patrol etc, just like a Blind lion. Can generate birth message, dies randomly between 1 to 8 years - Art change: Birth to Adult


Minimal art change or not visible


The thought behind those is that those mutations could be caused by breeding to old lionesses or inbreeding via user suggestions

Cross-Eyed - Art change: could be eyes-like decors layered over the lineart, responsive to the actual eye colours - stat penalty - can't be retired into, can hunt or patrol though.

Hybrids


Things are brewing! This is kept spoiler-free.

Primal variants


There's a few more variants designed and named after ancient beasts or latin/greek words, each will have a unique trait or source.

Chimera issue


Chimera is one of most suggested mutations. The issue is that it would require two sets of lion information: Two bases, set of markings each, separate eye colours etc. Sounds like a very serious problem when coding the information - the extra tables have to be coded there, but not show up in normal lions. It is VERY difficult to do that.

Method 1 - code-wise the most complex way, not even sure if possible how I imagine - adjust the lion profile by adding another table if mutation is present to show both genetics - right side is from father, left side from mother, to make it easier just copy 100% of each parent’s looks onto respectable half (unless possible, just have normal bred looks). When bred, this lion would pass only one half of the genetics (randomly picked by script).

Method 2 - easy for coding, fast to implement. Make for example 10 versions of each half show up like Achromia - covering the original picture with a random half on top of the lineart. The genetics and markings show in a normal way on the original art, and the chimera half is just separate and not affecting gameplay. If bred, only the actual information passes, and the chimera half would not.

Method 3 - create a "shadow" lion, hidden on the account, that acts as 2nd set of the Chimerism genetics. While breeding, the script picks one of the two lions, either main or shadow. The "shadow" genetics could be viewable via a special button click. We're probably not able to add another lion info chart on the lion's page just for this mutation.

Summary: We're thinking. It's a lot of work. Not anytime soon. :(





Spoilers


Dorsal Fur - Full design - Added!
Phocomelia - Full design
Progeria - Concepts
Hairless - Concept
Brachycephaly - Concept

Note: I might update this from time to time



This suggestion has 3406 supports and 16 NO supports.



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Edited on 20/12/23 @ 12:50:13 by a Moderator

birchclan (#116541)

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Posted on
2018-01-29 05:48:46
*sits patiently waiting for some of these mutations*



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pin (#123673)

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Posted on
2018-02-28 20:07:45
i was thinking there are two mutation ideas i had they could be fatal or not really depends idk

first kyphosis i'm not sure if this has ever been seen in lions but it happens in house cats, kyphosis for those who don't know is where the spine is deformed and sometimes it can look like the hunchback of notre dame like a "ledge" halfway down the cat's back. i think this could have kind of the same affects as blind since it gives them trouble walking correctly and running so they couldn't hunt or patrol etc. i feel like another cool little bit could be to make them unable to mate maybe cause of the strain it puts on their backs.

i'm not sure if this has a name but recently while looking up birth defects in cats to use with my newest character parsley i found multiple cats and kittens that has been born with their legs kind of bent and twisted back towards their rear's so much so that some of them almost could touch the base of their tail with their back paws. this isn't really a mutation per say. i think it would be more suitably a lethal or at least dying randomly when an adol.



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zwj;⚧️ (#85760)

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Posted on
2018-03-05 18:05:14
I don’t know what it’d be about and all, I just came across these pictures and thought it could make a great possible future lethal mutation?

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/ad_192499540-e1452523284575.jpg?w=748&h=561&crop=1

http://breaking911.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/outdoorhub-photos-idaho-hunter-shoots-mountain-lion-with-bizarre-deformity-2016-01-08_14-39-49-880x561.png



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Edited on 05/03/18 @ 18:08:54 by WildClan [Opal Eye Primal] (#85760)

Cucumberoverlord (#103688)

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Posted on
2018-03-23 10:41:07
i love the Polydactyly idea, my partner has a cat with an extra toe and he really does seem to play hunt better than our other two cats. though his extra claw does tend to get caught quite easily.



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Kahlua #HeyTefnut (#142451)

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2018-04-03 06:58:37
The links to arachnodacthily and elongated tail don't works (the first redirect to a site written in cirillic alphabet the second one just say not found)

I don't know if it's been already suggested (if Yes please tell me and I will correct) but a thing that will require (I think) minimal work will be a one eye only blindness. It will surely lower the stats but would be still possible to hunt/patrol/lead a pride (in dwarfism is possible so...)

Please let me know! Any suggestion/critics will be absolutely appreciated!



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EgyptianMilk (#30637)

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Posted on
2018-04-27 15:35:08
HAIRLESS !!



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Skunky (#145633)

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Posted on
2018-05-10 08:21:53
I was thinking of hermaphroditism perhaps? these lions wouldn't be able to breed and would have the overall look of a maned female with a thinner body. just something that filtered though my mind~



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soup (#52780)

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Posted on
2018-05-22 02:08:41
Regarding Short Spine Syndrome- is that an option that might be up for debate regarding it's lethality?
Considering wild animals suffering from SSS have been found as adults (An adult wolf shot in Russia, Adult fox with the syndrome, sub-adult coyote, An alive adult Raccoon) and in animals other than dogs (A horse with short spine syndrome, probably didn't get much baby-ing either considering she was in a kill pen auction) and have even been referenced historically (earliest reference to a dog with short spine syndrome was from 1690 in a painting by D. Kl. Ehrenstrahl), it definitely seems like a mutation that could result in a lion living to teen years or adulthood.

Interestingly enough, animals with the condition don't seem to have any impact to their internal organs (either Pig or Cuda the dog had x-rays that showed their organs were fine), so it might not even kill them as they age!

So it could end up being a deformity like Dwarfism that causes a severe penalty to...well, pretty much all the lions stats, and probably reduces hunt success for lionesses, but wouldn't have to automatically result in a lethal mutation *w*



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Firestar102🔥 (#79468)

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Posted on
2018-05-22 14:24:45
i agree with soup and wow the wolf caught me by surprise i didn't think something with that short of a body could live but i guess life is amazing though hopefully no animals that have this issue are in pain, seems best to make it none lethal but with minor to major penalties, and even variations in how short the spine is? resulting in more minor penalties and the shorter the spine the more major the penalties?



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Skunky (#145633)

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Posted on
2018-06-08 08:23:50
Lethal mutation idea: Megaesophagus cub would pass within a month due to an inability to eat properly.



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koriva (#33823)

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2018-07-31 15:15:30
I actually have a curly tailed cat in my garden. his tail is curled downwards like a coil though, not upwards. He can stretch it and straighten it if he wants, but its "relaxed" state is coiled. I'll try to take a pic of it when I have the time.



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Frozen (#129291)

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Posted on
2018-08-09 08:11:37
So for the chimera issue discussed here, is that the same as having one cub with two fathers and one mother? I know chimera kind of refers to the half and half look but what about just using DUs to breed to two different fathers, and then combining/mixing the genes from the two fathers to create all of the children? So then the cubs would all get 50% of genes from the mother and 25% from each father.



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♥ Asali
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Posted on
2018-08-12 12:20:45
My heart is broken for the Phocomelia :(



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Peanut [Side] (#107579)

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Posted on
2018-08-15 19:05:55
Oh my goodness. yes. Hairless NEEDS to be a thing!



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Dragonkin56 (#152149)

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Posted on
2018-08-17 17:49:01
You know what would be SO COOL???? A cheetah/lion hybrid. Like, Cheetion or Litah.
Or a black panther/lion hybrid!!!! A Pion or a Lanther.



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