Posted by [MUTATION] Sickle Cell Anemia

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2016-10-14 11:11:05
I had a few people: Orcinus [Crazy Elephant King] (#31718) and Phantom StarsX ^ↀᴥↀ^ (#92256) tell me that this would be better in mutations.
Thank you Phantom for Pointing out that this can be a mutation within a person's body (people being born with Anemia).

"Sickle-cell anemia. People with sickle-cell anemia have a gene that causes the blood protein hemoglobin to form abnormally. As a result, red blood cells are produced in a sickle shape. “This can cause painful episodes called crises, and even strokes and heart attacks,” Murray says. People with sickle-cell anemia may also experience swelling in the hands and feet and a reduced ability to fight infection. Sickle-cell anemia is most common in African-Americans, Murray says, but it also sometimes affects people of Hispanic, Indian, and Mediterranean descent." - Jennifer Acosta Scott

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How it looks in the blood stream:

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(thanks to Husk for this picture and much more information.)

This essentially means that when these blood cells form a sickle shape they can die early and leave a very low amount of healthy red blood cells and are unable to carry enough oxygen throughout the body. Hemoglobin S cells can only live 16 days, compared to regular red blood cells that can last up to 120 days before being replaces by new cells.

Some questions maybe asked on:

a. What would this look like on our lions?
b. How would it affect our lions?
c. What causes it to happen?

Art Style Idea:

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(Sorry, I have really bad art. qq)

[NEW] There would also be swelling in the joints of the lion, plus other infections.


a. The answer to that is simple! Some of the noticeable signs on a human for anemia fatigue, pain, infections and delayed development. So if they were to do art for Anemia on a lion it would be probably that they are sitting, or laying down from being extremely tired because of the lack of blood/iron, maybe overtime develop infections or scars. (Essentially art on lion would look like they are exhausted)

b. Anemia affects our lions on the way of maybe not being able to hunt, not a lot of energy, and unable to do normal tasks of other lions/lionesses. (I think they'd still be able to hunt but not as many times in a day if they have Anemia)

c.
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"People with sickle cell disease have a kind of hemoglobin called hemoglobin S, or HbS. HbS molecules tend to clump together. This makes red blood cells sticky, stiff, and more fragile. HbS also causes cells to form into a curved, sickle shape." - Kidshealth.org

"People with two copies of the sickle cell gene have the disease. People who carry only one copy of the sickle cell gene do not have the disease, but may pass the gene on to their children." - "Understanding Evolution" (two lions would carry the gene but not have the disease, making them able to pass it onto their cub and them having Sickle Cell Anemia)

"Symptoms usually begin after a few months of age. (Before that age, the baby has a different hemoglobin, called fetal hemoglobin, which is not affected by the sickle cell gene.)" - Patient.info

Lions can die between ages of 9-13

I am currently unsure of how to maybe treat the Anemia other than maybe having like bone marrow from other animals being eaten by the lion/lioness.

Ideas from Comments: Lionesses dying with miscarriages if they have sickle cell. Higher chance for miscarriages.
Male lions with sickle cell are unable to be king.
Smaller bodies due to not enough oxygen.
Sickle Cell males die faster than females.




Weird Fact: Sickle Cell Anemia was a genetic mutation that happened thousands of years ago in malaria-prone regions in Africa. People with Sickle Cell Anemia are unable to get malaria.


Please ask questions and post suggestions because this isn't really everything I want to put on here yet! I want opinion from the community on making this happen!

[MORE GOING TO BE ADDED FOR INFORMATION]

Sources:
http://www.everydayhealth.com/anemia/anemia-and-heredity.aspx
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/mutations_06
http://kidshealth.org/EN/images/illustrations/sickleCell-400x214-rd1-enIL.jpg
http://kidshealth.org/en/teens/sickle-cell-anemia.html
http://patient.info/health/sickle-cell-disease-and-sickle-cell-anaemia-leaflet
American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons



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Edited on 16/10/16 @ 12:32:20 by [P.P.A.] DJ Smiley (#22708)

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2016-10-14 11:18:44
I support (obviously), it's a great idea x3



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2016-10-14 11:19:19
Yea, I'll be adding more research wise.



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2016-10-14 11:24:05
If your king has Sickle Cell, He could never rise over 80% energy?
Or it could be a deadly mutation? (Lions need to be able to run.)



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2016-10-14 11:29:28
With animals, they will still be able to be active and function as long as they get more iron in their diet.



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2016-10-14 11:33:27
Maybe having to feed them more would be something interesting, since they would need more iron in their diet. So, instead of a 20% rise a day, have a 30% rise a day, similar to the beetles?



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2016-10-14 11:34:36
I thought the same thing Alex but having Anemia doesn't raise your hunger so it didn't seem to make sense.



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2016-10-14 11:36:02
That's the reason why I didn't really even put a way to really treat it.



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2016-10-14 11:56:56
I don't support

Its because like all mutations we have currently, you can visibly see it but with this one you wouldn't be able to also its not like you magically know this one because there are no visible signs of it.



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2016-10-14 12:00:16
Actually, there are visible signs of Sickle Cell Anemia which includes infections and visible exhaustion and fatigue. And some possible flavor texts when the baby is after 3 months old is that it maybe is like "You notice your cub is not eating well and is always tired and exhausted." Or something letting you know that your cub has Sickle Cell Anemia



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Edited on 14/10/16 @ 19:01:47 by [P.P.A.] DJ Smiley (#22708)

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2016-10-14 12:32:42
Well, the shape of the sickle cell prevents oxygen intake into the blood, if the lion had two strains of SCA, they will be lethargic, never be able to hunt properly, have brain deficiency and would be very rare, if they could even been sustained after birth.

With one strain of SCA, even then the lion effected will have difficulty with keeping up with their parents, wont be able to swim that well, wont be able to keep up when the lions are at high altitude. When hunting, wont be able to run that far or that fast, wont be as agile, wont be able to jump or climb high and will be slow to understand communication.
In a drought, it will be the first to die, mostly properly eaten by its own pride.

All in all, what ever strain the lion gets, if its a double SCA or a single and is a carrier, it properly wont survive cub hood. ( Adol hood if single strain. Maybe?)



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Edited on 14/10/16 @ 19:46:55 by Tazzie's Side-IN UNI CLASS (#23876)

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2016-10-14 12:38:03
Thank you for this information, can you give a source so I can look into it more?



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2016-10-14 12:39:21
I support ^.^

Also tazzie? Lol you just described difficulties a dwarf lion would have sooo.... *shrugs*



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2016-10-14 12:40:45
Is that for dwarf?



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2016-10-14 12:42:57
No but not being able to keep up or swim or hunting properly and altitude difficulties is also what you'd have with a real dwarf lion. I felt like Tazzie was saying it should be lethal so I just thought I'd say. Lol

I can understand lower energy and not hunting properly being for the mutation. But not sure about it being lethal.



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Edited on 14/10/16 @ 19:44:04 by Phantom StarsX ^ↀᴥↀ^ (#92256)

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2016-10-14 12:44:53
hmm Didn't think it would be describing a dwarf. o.o
Didn't think of that, the response was based off a conversation i had with someone, when i asked them ' How will SCA effect a lion? Based on how it effects humans?'



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