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LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)


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2017-01-04 06:22:22

The Third Lioden Hybrid - The Jaglion



What is a Jaglion?

A jaglion is the unlikely offspring produced from a male jaguar and a lioness. While seemingly bizarre and outlandish to many, jaglions are actually among one of the more recent hybrids to be successfully produced. Although they are bred less often (thankfully) than ligers and liligers, there are two jaglions, Tsunami and Jazhara, who were born at Bear Creek Sanctuary in 2006. The two are still alive to this day, although their parents have since been separated to prevent more accidental jaglions. The two creatures seem to be healthy, and sport a very unique appearance in comparison to leopons.

While I do wish to show you a side-by-side comparison of a jaglion vs a leopon in terms of appearance, the images on Bear Creek have been copyrighted, and they have stressed their desire for their images not to be reposted. Instead, I will provide links to Bear Creak Sanctuary's jaglion page, as well as the link to the leopon wikipedia article.


http://www.bearcreeksanctuary.com/jaglions.htm -
PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THESE PEOPLE DO NOT GENUINELY CARE FOR THESE ANIMALS, AND ARE NOT A TRUE SANCTUARY. DO NOT PLAN VISITS TO THEM SIMPLY BECAUSE I'M USING THEM AS AN EXAMPLE OF JAGLIONS.***

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopon

How would they occur in Lioden?

A good, valid question! After all, jaguars live in South America, not Africa. However, you know what other impossible hybrid is coming to Lioden in 2018? The tigon.

Tigers are known to roam Asia, and while a certain subspecies of lion, the Asiatic lion, also roams Asia, the two lack overlapping ranges. Alongside that, it is heavily hinted at that Lioden takes place in Africa proper, and not in Asia, judging by its flora and fauna. However, we still get tigons. This is because, at least from what I've heard, that a tiger escaped from a zoo, or was perhaps an exotic pet that broke loose. While such occurrences are unlikely, it is still going to be apart of Lioden's lore. Such a scenario could easily be the same case as the jaglion's jaguar father.

A jaguar escapes from an African zoo and takes shelter in the jungle. Not too unlikely, given how poor the humans in this game seem to be at keeping animals where they should.


UPDATE!
A jaguar encounter was added in the December of 2017! This male jaguar is in search of a lioness to protect him. Maybe that lioness will do a little more than just protect him...




Fun Jaglion Facts!
1. Male jaglions don't have a mane. At most, they have a little bit more fluff on their chests.
2. Jaglions can be melanistic if their jaguar father is.
3. Jaglions are smaller than their mothers, but larger than their fathers.


*** More Info on Bear Creek

Bear Creek allows visitors to handle cubs, which is both stressful and unhealthy for the cubs. These cubs are taken away from their mothers before they are weaned to be bottle-fed by visitors and staff while they are still "cute". Once these cubs grow up, they are often left in awful conditions. Along with that, their production of the Jaglions shows how careless they are towards conserving wildlife. Hybrids serve no conservation purposes. Cub handling is cruel. Do not support Bear Creek, and please, don't take this suggestion as me advocating for them.



This suggestion has 3787 supports and 116 NO supports.



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Edited on 26/02/23 @ 12:02:55 by LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)

Mephicat [Lights
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Posted on
2017-11-07 11:18:27
Love the suggestion! Strong support.

Just wanted to say though. Please, to people checking out the "sanctuaries" website and thinking of going on a trip there. They are not a licensed sanctuary and they allow hands-on cub experiences (this is stressful and unnatural for the cub and opens them up to disease when their immune system is at its most delicate). There's a picture on their website of them taking a tiger cub on a lead to an auditorium full of children. This is extremely stessful and dangerous for a wild animal.

Here is the report they got from the World Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. They got an F.

OP, if you could mention this in your post. It would be great. You really don't want to accidentally promote the place.



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LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)


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2017-11-07 11:36:23
Ah, of course! It was never my intention to support the place (after all, they produced hybrids - They obviously don't give a damn about conservation), though I admit it might've been foolish of me to assume that others would also understand that this place is a for-profit, awful place for animals. Thank you for bringing this up, so I could add it to the post.



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Mephicat [Lights
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Posted on
2017-11-07 12:54:16
Thanks for the response! It's awesome that you see the place for what it is :)



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LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)


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2017-11-09 11:51:57
Thank you all very much, we've reached 600+ supports! This is such a huge leap from what I ever expected from this suggestion - Honestly, I expected it to get rejected almost immediately or shot down. It makes me happy to see that so many people agree that this would make a great hybrid, so here's hoping we can reach 700 and perhaps get that sacred little [vv] on the post!



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Stein| INACTIVE (#109650)

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2017-11-21 21:12:20
Okay, so I was totally just reading about these guys and wondering if they had been suggested before! It may be a good point to add that, according to studies done regarding the genes of other panthera species, such as snow leopards, they have occurred naturally in the wild in the past (Wikipedia, and a quick Google search). The two cubs at Bear Creek weren't planned, either, but you mentioned that~



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Posted on
2017-11-22 13:22:57
Would there be a new pose? or just new bases and markings?



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LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)


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Posted on
2017-11-27 10:14:03
This is a new hybrid, not a pose.



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2017-11-27 14:18:20
No, like you know how the leopons have a different pose from the regular lions.



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Whale Biologist 🐋 (#35355)

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Posted on
2017-12-01 04:52:15

Hmm the new special explore encounter has me thinking jaglions are gonna be a thing!




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Sivert [Patches
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Posted on
2017-12-01 04:53:22
I think the same thing @Just a Comet. It's unusually reminiscent of this suggestion.

"Maybe find a lioness for protection."

Protection. *wink, wink*



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Edited on 01/12/17 @ 04:59:44 by Siv [Poop 4 Poop; Gift 4 Gift] (#59282)

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Posted on
2017-12-04 04:31:22
With the new encounter, they do seem to have the door open for a possibility of jaglions.
Support from me.



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LittleAntler [BLM] (#30151)


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2017-12-05 23:06:46
After a brief hiatus, I see that jaguars now exist in LIODEN! 👀 Perhaps my mindchildren are more close than we think...



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༎ຶ༽ (#116532)

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Posted on
2017-12-09 18:43:32
What do you think the mutation pose would look like? Also, yes I am aware this isn't a pose suggestion as you pointed out to me before.



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Squeepers (#128977)

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Posted on
2018-01-09 08:18:03
Well considering Lioden had already put a Jaguar in as an encounter it could have been that one of the lions gave him a chance to come live with his pride only to find one day that the jaguar had fled and one of his females unexpectedly became pregnant. When she gave birth the cubs were spotted. Weird?



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Fae (#132505)

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2018-02-07 18:55:16
Oh wow! I am actually rather partial to this idea. c: This reminds me of that event we had where that jaguar was going to find himself a lioness for protection. But yes! I support for sure.



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