Posted by Enable Double Markings Again [1200+ Support]

Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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2017-10-13 11:20:15

Enable Double Markings When Breeding Parents (Or One Parent) That Have(/Has) The Same Marking In Separate Slots, Again.



This was briefly, although windedly, mentioned in another thread I made.

In the thread I touch on and give examples as to how there was once a time where if you had two markings of the same color in separate slots they could pass to the children. While everyone accepted this as the normal. and for a lot of people it became a massive breeding project, it was recently revealed that it was supposed a bug in the coding.

However, I think the way it worked was just fine. My suggestion is to "Bring this bug back", but in a sense that it would not longer be a bug. Abbeys post says they have some coding that prevents this, and for some reason it just wasn't working for... years. My suggestion is to remove that block and let it be a non-bug possibility.

In my thread a lot of people tried debating this, and boy was it a headache, but I assume it will happen here too. I'm going to add some things below to hopefully ease the amount of debate.

1. This type of breeding is not as easy as you would think it to be, as it takes two free slots of the same marking (in separate slots).

2. This type of breeding is not hard to avoid. The with vs. the without is very unfair. With the 'fixed' system you just cannot breed more than a double (and that takes two grawrocks, which means if the dad has double he can't pass even that). Gnawrocks cost 15Gb+ each. And then its useless because you can't replicate the markings without the gnawrocks again (resee king with double marks). To avoid this breeding you merely have to glimpse at the markings on a stud vs a lioness. If you don't pay attention and miraculously you get a double, and its in a slot you need, you just need to use a marking removal. that's 1Gb vs 30Gb+.

3. This suggestion is about the freedom of breeding (ThisWasGood). When this 'bug' was present no one was complaining. If they were, the staff would have caught the issue much sooner instead of it persisting until they just happened to fix it by implementing a new system. No one forces you to breed double marking/color lions, but this fixed system forced anyone with a project like this to stop. Lots of people have lost so much money. Some have even lost all drive to play the game for the breeding part (Ie: they just gather and sell items or currency and have minimal or no lions).

Some notable links that I thought were good from the other thread;
From Cin: "What you enjoy vs. what others enjoy" & "The difference in stacked markings"
From Ningoat: "Re: You enjoy vs others enjoy"
From E-quagga: "Mutations vs Markings"
There are more, if you care to browse the thread linked in the first sentence.

Here are some examples, from the thread, of people who's projects have been ruined;
Lex's Cream & 2x Onyx Rosette Project
Typh's 2x Onyx, Gold, Mottled Rosette Project
Maiq's 2x Clay Panther Project
Sabryn's 2x (and later 3x) F7G Project
Arctos' Multi-Celestial Speckles Project
Sasa Had a Double Onyx Margay Project



I would like to clarify, to quote Abbey; "If you want it reverted back to the old system, we're more than willing to review it again if a suggestion topic can get support specifically about the duplicate markings issue." Just because it was a bug at one time, does not mean it cannot become a real, non-bug, game feature.

Sasa's thread (no longer bumped)




This suggestion has 1257 supports and 127 NO supports.



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Edited on 04/02/23 @ 16:29:08 by Heda Vampiric (#56702)

Talmoi (#16689)

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Posted on
2019-04-12 06:55:06
Still patiently waiting in hopes for this to be a thing again. Kinged a double onyx panther on my side a few days ago, would be nice if his cubs could have both too.



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MajestyCoal, Wenet
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2019-04-30 07:11:50
This is an example of a bug that was around for so long it became a feature, and may I say that it's a huge disappointment that it was "fixed".
If we aren't allowed passable double markings, then surely it should be made impossable to apply double markings? Anything else is a waste of money and unfair to players who don't know better.



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Rin Spiritwolf (#20915)

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Posted on
2019-05-09 10:48:39
Yes PUH-LEASE! Double markings gives each lion a special appearance unique only to them.



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[g1 frail] (#15939)

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Posted on
2019-06-24 17:25:14
why was this ever “fixed”.. so many lovely, soft, delicate markings.. but what if i want them twice, three times as strong—but the same color? white inverted quagga is so light in the stripes & it looks really cool stacked. but no.. it’s an impossibility & a waste of a gnawrock. sad!



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Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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2019-06-24 19:03:26
According to admins it was accidentally fixed when they implemented an update to the marking system. It wasn’t supposed to exist in the first place, but it was clearly enjoyed, and would still be enjoyed. So staff said they might be willing to restore it if enough suppose is garnered.



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💜 Ninque (#106221)

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Posted on
2019-07-02 23:33:32
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It's still possible to get double markings thanks to RMA (happend to me a week ago), so I guess that's something?



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Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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2019-07-02 23:43:50
Well yes. You can get them. But if you breed that lion, only one will ever pass at a time until they enable double markings again. When they’re enabled both will have a chance to pass in a breeding.



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kittenlily 🐈 (#50738)

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2019-07-08 09:13:35
almost 2 years later and this hasn't been reimplemented- WHY?!




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Emil Winter #GIMME
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Posted on
2019-07-14 22:02:31
My sister used to wanna do breedings for this before she left. She wanted to breed multi panther and cheetah when it came out. She no longer plays, but I think it would be nice to put this back in place so I could take over her wishes.

10000% support.



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LionOfLife (#104672)

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Posted on
2019-08-07 13:25:11
God, I wish this was still a thing.
Would make my breeding project way easier, as celestial shine s3 passes more than the s5, which I needed



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Mwothman (#138189)

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2019-10-06 00:44:59
Man, if double breeding was implimented, I would have a reason to try and breed a vitilgo king with layered vits. That would be so pretty, I support this



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survivor (#183270)

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2019-12-02 10:30:20
MillieCat's response pretty much summed it up for me;

"Was about to not support because of double markings on applicators. Applicators are mostly a annual thing and can be really annoying if you get a duplicate (specially if you want a specific marking)
If it's a breed only mechanic, I don't see why it shouldn't be a thing. It can be a fun project for those who are into it. For those who aren't and get doubles, the cubs could be more valuable to sell so I think it has a lot of potential to be a win/win situation
If people are so worried about doubles being frequent, what about having a cheap item at the monkey shop that triggers the chances of double markings to pass? That way only people who want them would get it. That or having a cheap item that removes ONLY double markings? (imo it would be a extra hassle either way but hey, trying to think of something to please both sides)"""

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There's a few different ways to get rid of double markings, but there is no way to achieve it anymore. that's not fair! Support!



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2020-01-14 18:22:31
Lioden offers so much in the way of choice that the idea they'd keep this out of the game, and for people who were breeding it by choice just feels wrong. Some people have entire months or year long projects centered around this. Put it back. It's of zero consequence.



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Edited on 14/01/20 @ 18:26:55 by [△] Jensen (#108458)

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Skyward (#48896)

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Posted on
2020-02-24 11:04:44
So many supports and yet, it hasn't been implemented yet!
I'll keep coming back to this thread till it its



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EasyPlesi (#23249)

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2020-02-27 00:27:53
omfg I just realized one of my oldest girls still has a double marking. (vitiligo 2, slot(s) 5 & 7)



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