Posted by Enable Double Markings Again [1200+ Support]

Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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2017-10-13 11:20:15

Enable Double Markings When Breeding Parents (Or One Parent) That Have(/Has) The Same Marking In Separate Slots, Again.



This was briefly, although windedly, mentioned in another thread I made.

In the thread I touch on and give examples as to how there was once a time where if you had two markings of the same color in separate slots they could pass to the children. While everyone accepted this as the normal. and for a lot of people it became a massive breeding project, it was recently revealed that it was supposed a bug in the coding.

However, I think the way it worked was just fine. My suggestion is to "Bring this bug back", but in a sense that it would not longer be a bug. Abbeys post says they have some coding that prevents this, and for some reason it just wasn't working for... years. My suggestion is to remove that block and let it be a non-bug possibility.

In my thread a lot of people tried debating this, and boy was it a headache, but I assume it will happen here too. I'm going to add some things below to hopefully ease the amount of debate.

1. This type of breeding is not as easy as you would think it to be, as it takes two free slots of the same marking (in separate slots).

2. This type of breeding is not hard to avoid. The with vs. the without is very unfair. With the 'fixed' system you just cannot breed more than a double (and that takes two grawrocks, which means if the dad has double he can't pass even that). Gnawrocks cost 15Gb+ each. And then its useless because you can't replicate the markings without the gnawrocks again (resee king with double marks). To avoid this breeding you merely have to glimpse at the markings on a stud vs a lioness. If you don't pay attention and miraculously you get a double, and its in a slot you need, you just need to use a marking removal. that's 1Gb vs 30Gb+.

3. This suggestion is about the freedom of breeding (ThisWasGood). When this 'bug' was present no one was complaining. If they were, the staff would have caught the issue much sooner instead of it persisting until they just happened to fix it by implementing a new system. No one forces you to breed double marking/color lions, but this fixed system forced anyone with a project like this to stop. Lots of people have lost so much money. Some have even lost all drive to play the game for the breeding part (Ie: they just gather and sell items or currency and have minimal or no lions).

Some notable links that I thought were good from the other thread;
From Cin: "What you enjoy vs. what others enjoy" & "The difference in stacked markings"
From Ningoat: "Re: You enjoy vs others enjoy"
From E-quagga: "Mutations vs Markings"
There are more, if you care to browse the thread linked in the first sentence.

Here are some examples, from the thread, of people who's projects have been ruined;
Lex's Cream & 2x Onyx Rosette Project
Typh's 2x Onyx, Gold, Mottled Rosette Project
Maiq's 2x Clay Panther Project
Sabryn's 2x (and later 3x) F7G Project
Arctos' Multi-Celestial Speckles Project
Sasa Had a Double Onyx Margay Project



I would like to clarify, to quote Abbey; "If you want it reverted back to the old system, we're more than willing to review it again if a suggestion topic can get support specifically about the duplicate markings issue." Just because it was a bug at one time, does not mean it cannot become a real, non-bug, game feature.

Sasa's thread (no longer bumped)




This suggestion has 1257 supports and 127 NO supports.



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Edited on 04/02/23 @ 16:29:08 by Heda Vampiric (#56702)

Serenity (#196115)

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Posted on
2020-03-06 18:03:12
If this gets added, I can’t WAIT for there to be a king with thousands of mottled rosettes or something

And oh my, the BRAWLS



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Ticklicous [1k+ G4
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Posted on
2020-03-17 05:32:05
Adding my support as this was honestly such a lifesaver back when it was still implemented. I'd love to see this restored as it'd make breeding much nicer. Sadly due to how breeding is for markings and stats, lions are being so heavily devalued that its absurdly hard making anything remotely close to a living off on breeding on LD unless you're rich and got an army of dwarves or hybrids.



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august [G1 2x Ros
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Posted on
2020-03-22 13:35:28
huge support



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Kit in a Box
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Posted on
2020-04-22 21:11:25
To quote myself from Sasa's thread back in 2018:
"I was actually trying for a multiple Celestial Speckles lion, a few months ago, when I learned this was no longer a thing.
So, definite support."

I hadn't realized it had been changed and was very disappointed. I supported this being re-implemented back then and still do today.



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2020-05-01 20:16:06
this literally has more supports than this game has players online sometimes, like how can they still not be implementing this?



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Angel||Dash24601
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2020-05-02 18:16:09
I saw a groupie last night with golden crumbing in 2 different slots!



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Kit in a Box
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2020-05-02 18:18:40
Right, but only one of her marks would pass onto a cub. You can definitely get multiple of the same mark on a lion, just only one can pass. :(



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Moo [G2 Ferus Vit
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2020-05-04 14:22:52
I have a king with stacked markings
double white inverted brawl (slots 5,6)
double locust ghost feralis (slots 4,10)
and triple white mottled fissures. (slots 7,8,9)

I actually give a lot of my females the same double white inverted brawl in 5, and 6
(I hog inverted brawl apps) so that I can still pass double on the babies and it’s tiring

I would like to see this come back



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Talmoi (#16689)

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2020-05-05 00:29:49
Do you's think we'll ever get this back? Were slowly closing in on the 3 year mark and nothing has happened



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Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 02:52:07
We can only hope.



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Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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Posted on
2020-05-15 17:00:16
We got a poll!

I would appreciate if people could read the points on this thread given that staff have now opened a poll, and please consider voting yes. We've been fight for this for almost what, 3 years now? Allowing double markings to pass opens more breeding possibilities than it closes, and it's much easier to avoid double breeding than it currently is to go for double breeding.

Thanks for your consideration, and please remember to keep all discussions civil.



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august [G1 2x Ros
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Posted on
2020-05-15 17:14:58
YES!! I've waited for this for so long and staff is finally considering re-implementing it!



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Ticklicous [1k+ G4
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Posted on
2020-05-15 21:47:06
After seeing the poll I really have my fingers crossed here. I'd love to have Double Markings back once more. Those were the days where I really had the best breeding successes and I wish to have them back once more. The days where I could actually get double rosettes a bit more easily. Well, minus actual rosette breeding since that has been randomized now, but still the point stands. XD



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Edited on 15/05/20 @ 21:47:47 by Ticklicous (#490)

Talmoi (#16689)

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Posted on
2020-05-16 00:13:35
I kinda wish they would have linked this thread to the poll. I'm worried alot of the down voters don't really understand how this worked. Hopefully it's a good outcome, i'd love to get back to my doubles project.



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Before (#25066)

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2020-05-16 19:55:33
I'm surprised at how close the official poll is, especially given how popular it used to be to double-up on the same markings. While we do have more variety of marks now, there's still value in making a favorite mark have higher opacity than it normally has.

While I personally am not even a fan of 100% opacity at times, I definitely support having the option of doubled-up markings passing. It may not be my aesthetic, but neither are color-bombs or lions with multiple strong, differently-shaped markings, and a lot of people love those.

It's not even like this would be a huge gameplay change, either. If anything, it makes it more intuitive: the marking is there, so it should be able to pass. As it is now, nothing indicates you can't.



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