Posted by HYENIS- mutation idea.

Kitty Fury (#83902)

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2018-07-19 19:02:21
I've been having a lot of ideas but none has outgrown it, basically a mutation that makes the lion look like a hyena.

  but do not worry, your lioness did not go for a walk with a hyena, in fact HYENIS is a spine problem that still happens with the cub in the womb of the lioness.
  When the cub is born, the first impression is that there is a hyena.


HYENIS

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~I also thought of some texts for that...

-your lioness gives birth, all cubs are health, but have a different .. looks like a hyena .. WAIT ... HYENA ???-
-[cub] walks up to you and start a conversation, but realizing you're looking at him strangely he walks away quickly and back to his mother.-

-you looks the members of your pride, and see [cub] is away from everyone, you go and tell him to join others along with a message of motivation, he rises happily and goes to the others.-

-you watch [cub] play with your brothers, until one hour he trips and falls. and you burst into laughter.-

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Edited on 15/08/18 @ 14:45:59 by Kitty Fury (#83902)

🅱️oneless (#123346)


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2018-08-05 11:36:20
At the very least, I need a hyenis lion as a custom decor



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these floral bones (#34213)

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2018-08-05 12:45:06
Custom decor is super open ended and everything so yeah that would work no problem. There's just no way it would work as a mutation in the game.



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KalikaRoo31 (#89224)


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2018-08-05 18:45:30
Hybrid support. Not a realistic one but those mockups are so cute.



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these floral bones (#34213)

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2018-08-05 19:34:45
It's not realistic enough to be accepted. Hyenas aren't related to lions enough for them to be able to conceive offspring together to say the least. Leopards and tigers are both in the same genus as lions, panthera. The only other two species in the genus are jaguar and snow leopards. Nothing outside of the genus can produce viable offspring with a lion.



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2018-08-05 19:37:05
Maybe a lore could be put behind it, like it was created in a lab? :/
I know that's not realistic, either; they don't have the same number chromosomes and would just be very unlikely to be produced (unless they functioned like mules, where they were just infertile because of the chromosome misalignment).



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these floral bones (#34213)

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2018-08-05 19:42:07
If they somehow conceived a litter it most likely would end in a miscarriage. I don't even think their genitals would be compatible, realistically. And being created in a lab doesn't eliminate the issues caused by the mismatched chromosomal numbers and sheer uselessness of the hybrid. The only way I can see this working is as either a custom decor or, and this is very much a stretch for me, the tragically deformed and fatal creation of a sadistic scientist trying to play god without taking into account the consequences. Even a laboratory most likely would fail to create a viable embryo.



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2018-08-07 12:41:03
Who cares if this is not really realistic, this game stopped being realistic 2 years ago, and we got primals, a hyena-like lion would be so cool!
This could have some cool lore about how hyenas and lions used to team up and by miracle they had an offspring together but this past was long forgotten because of the thousands and thousands of years and now a hyenis lion appears to once again bring peace between the lions and hyenas xD ok my story sucks lol

Maybe it could be a Mutie of Demand if only “realistic” mutations and hybrids are allowed to be bred randomly?... but then it would become inheritable? Like the primals?
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Oh Asher’s story is also cool for them! Lab hybrids awesome.



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Edited on 07/08/18 @ 12:44:37 by Zizi 🥀 (#12402)

these floral bones (#34213)

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2018-08-07 15:29:43
Xylax requires mutations to be realistic. Custom decor of this would fly. A mutation of this is quite frankly not going to happen. Again, literally impossible. Any other mutation in the game is possible. This is not.



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2018-08-10 18:52:52
i think this is a feasible mutation. i don't know how necessary it is, given the amount of work needed to put it into place, but it is definitely feasible.
and, contrary to Cotton Candy's insistence on it being unrealistic, i think it's pretty realistic, when compared to the other mutations in the game
there is no evidence of a melanistic lion ever existing, nor have there been documented cases (to my knowledge) of a lion mutating back to it's giant primal form, two lions born as conjoined twins, or a lion with piebald (there are probably a few more). heck, i don't even think there's a documented case of vitiligo in a lion, and that's not even a mutation on here!
my point is, if it's a condition that has been recorded in at least one species, it seems realistic enough for lioden. and, as mentioned, this is a condition that occurs in German Shepherds, so just as melanism occurs in other species and can therefore occur in lions on lioden, it only makes sense that a deformity of the back would be no less accepted
you have my support, although i wouldn't hold your breath on this one unless you get a ton of support for it, as it would require a large amount of work to accomplish



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these floral bones (#34213)

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2018-08-10 19:30:34
This isn't a deformed back suggestion, though, it also includes the eyes and ears to look like a hyena.



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2018-08-10 21:28:43
hmm i'll with-hold a decision for now, but i think maybe stick with the sloped back rather then have the whole ears and eyes be changed as well



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Edited on 10/08/18 @ 21:32:36 by Anonymous (#44152)

Zizi (#12557)


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2018-08-11 00:46:38
Now where is there a statement that mutations/hybrids need to be 99-100% realistic to be considered. I think, at first when mutations were introduced, it was said to only suggest realistic mutation from real-life, but that was waaayy before lioden became fantasy and primals weren't even planned.

it really pisses me off how you guys immediately hit the no-support because it isn't 99+% realistic. >_>



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these floral bones (#34213)

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2018-08-11 00:48:03
Xylax has stated multiple times that mutations must be realistic.



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Posted on
2018-08-11 01:01:44
in between atm. ill wait to see other answers



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2018-08-11 01:10:07
The curved back itself isnt unrealistic but the name certainly is - it might exist on Lioden but it 100% cannot be named Hyenis, it's not a proper mutation name. Crooked Back or Sloped Back, would be a more proper name for it. Otherwise It'd be the same as calling Folded Ears "Scottis" because it looks like a Scottish Fold cat or calling Dwarfism "Dachshundism" because it looks like a dachshund; a single animal that it can be compared with just cant be a name for a mutation! At least because it can be compared to other animals too, like I could call it "Germanshepherdis" because it also looks like a german shepherd to me.

So, Id suggest changing the name to a proper mutation-sounding name, like Sloped Back, Crooked Back, or Curved Back, if you want this to get more supports. ^_^



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