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Axel (#6627)

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2018-08-02 13:29:51
My suggestion is for the August event.
Now, we need to collect points personally to get the shops open.

But this also brings a problem to light.
Many people will want to take a look at both shops and spend their event currencies on items they want.

However, due to the personal bar, you need to collect 300 points to get one shop open, then collect 600 points to open the other shop. That means 900 points in total.

With the frequency of the event choices in explore and the amount of points they give, I believe one should not expect most players to open both shops in one event.

So I suggest a helping item.
I havent named it, I dont have a picture of it. But it would be in both shops, it would cost some event currency and would reset the player's points to 0. So they can open the other shop easier.

I know we are at the very beginning of the event but honestly... I have been on all day and only have 25 points so far.

Hope you liked my suggestion.

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Some important points:

1. I see this as being a bit like June, July or October events. You get to chose a path and and it's costly or you just can't switch.
The June event was fairly new with a lot of new items. They have allowed us to switch between shops and get what we needed for our event currencies.
The July event didnt have a specific shop for the choices we made. It had one big shop where we could spend our event currency.
In October we did have a shop specific for the choice we made but dont forget that we had the option to purchase 'Oblivion' from both shops, which acts as an item I am suggesting. It allowed you to access the other shop.

It's costly to switch most will stay with only one path encouraging trading.
It is all nice and good, however not knowing what new items will be added to the shops makes this part very difficult. Most people might end up being forced to stay to one path indeed -not because they want to but because they cant switch- but maybe this path is not what they wanted from the event. In the end, getting what you want -when new items are added- is not the question of choice but the question of luck.

UNLESS they hurry up and update the Wiki with all available items at the very beginning of each month, then we need the item to switch shops more easily.



This suggestion has 20 supports and 10 NO supports.



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Edited on 16/03/19 @ 03:28:29 by a Moderator

hellameme (#133750)


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2018-08-02 13:36:29
For someone that only has one account, this could be a really good item to have! However, if you have a side account, you could always use it to unlock the other shop & just transfer the items. That's what I plan on doing.

Of course with the side accounts, I understand that some people don't bother with them or aren't rolling on them in order to keep some lions from aging or whatever. Still though, it could be something helpful! I'll support.



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KalikaRoo31 (#89224)


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2018-08-02 18:26:36
I don't support I see this as being a bit like June, July or October events. You get to chose a path and and it's costly or you just can't switch. It's part of the event you choose to do good or evil. It's costly to switch most will stay with only one path encouraginy trading. I think it should stay that way.



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Axel (#6627)

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2018-08-02 21:42:57
That is not what the news post implies, though.

Not to mention there will be new stuff added to the shops but the Wiki isnt yet updated. This means once someone opens the shop, they might not be pleased with what they find and might want the items of the other shop after all.
So either the wiki needs a quick update before people collect a lot of points.... Or we need an item like this at least for this year.

This wouldnt be the first time helping features are implemented to make getting desired items a bit easier for their introduction.

And do not forget that in all the events you have listed we could access all shops without any issues. In this event, however, we cant. This is the first event where the majority of people wont be able to access all new items.

So all in all... It isnt much of a choice if you dont know what you are choosing.



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Edited on 02/08/18 @ 23:46:50 by Axel (#6627)

KalikaRoo31 (#89224)


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2018-08-03 06:19:42
The wiki is updated I looked at it on the 1st. And as for the events, July locks you in after a certain piont you can't go back. June was made easy because it was a new event they plan on changing that next year this was said in the event news post. October requires a lot of currently to switch. This moth requires a lot of good/evil pionts. It's the same thing. It encourages players to stick to one path.



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Axel (#6627)

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2018-08-03 07:00:51
I looked at the shops and they were not edited yet.
http://liodenwiki.wikidot.com/event-shops-2

About the July event:
Your choice only affects the rewards, not the shop. So it is irrelevant.

June: We are still given the option to return to the shops. They didnt say they will remove that entirely. Just the part where we can change shops as many times as we like. Obviously we will still be able to switch shops but it will be limited from there on.

October: Encounters were relatively abundant for the event. Plus the items did not cost a fortune, so people could switch shops without much fuss and could buy stuff they wanted.

I would accept the 'stick to one path' if it only affected rewards, titles, and the event storyline. But during an event I am gathering an event currency which I can spend only during that month, during that event. So I expect being able to buy what I need. Not pass up on a lot of items I want, only to be forced to buy them for SB/GB, even though I have tons of event currency left to buy them now. Yes, it is stored on my account for the next year but then new items come and I will be forced to neglect one shop and tons of new items again.



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KalikaRoo31 (#89224)


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2018-08-03 11:13:13
That's why there is trading its how I get things from other shops. And October has three shops and you only get access to two of the. You have to choose angels or demons and there is no switching. You can go neutral but at a coast of 200 beetles I believe. And you have the option to switch in this event. It's not that difficult.

Your looking at the wrong place
http://liodenwiki.wikidot.com/august-event-droughts-and-fires
At the bottom



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Edited on 03/08/18 @ 11:20:30 by KalikaRoo31 (#89224)

Axel (#6627)

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2018-08-03 11:37:36
Wow, nice way to update the shop at the wrong place. Why isnt it updated at the list? You know... where people actually look for the shop items. Where it is supposed to be. At the shop list. Where... we can see the items without needing to scroll through the enemy list. Where we are supposed to get a list of the items/month.

I am not looking at the wrong place. They have neglected to update the items at the right place.

Oh well. Seems like I have collected points for the wrong shop. Yeeeeey.... I can now make the extra work to get the points reduced first before I can start collecting for the other shop.

And about the October shop... but you CAN access all shops if you purchase Oblivion. Which is my point. This item would act the same way. So yes, October has 3 shops and you can access all 3 in exchange of event currency. This item would act the exact same way.

Trading should be an option for those who cannot afford to be online much and cannot collect enough event currency to get their items or to switch shops. At least allow me to switch shop in exchange for some of this event currency.

And yes, it can be rather difficult to switch in this event. Because well... not everyone can sit here every day. I am a working adult. I am glad if I can be here every 3 days in general. But when I am online I usually collect enough currency to buy everything I need. But 900 points are too much just to access both shops (that means I would need to be active 30 days out of 31). So I will be left frustrated with 100s of currency on my account but unable to spend them.



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KalikaRoo31 (#89224)


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2018-08-03 13:34:42
I work too still don't have a problem with only having access to only one shop. and October even does lock you out of one shop. If you chose angels you are stuck there. you can go back to the Manticore with oblivion but not switch to demons. I was here last year for that event.

Also trading is for everyone, even players who are on all the time.



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Axel (#6627)

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2018-08-06 02:25:32
Only after you made your final choice and you are far enough into the storyline. I was there too.

And yes, trading is for everyone. But if I have more than enough event tokens... then I have the right to be able to spend them instead if spending SB/GB. That is the point.



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KalikaRoo31 (#89224)


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2018-08-06 06:00:19
Most just buy event item to trade or sell the currency and October didn't have much of a story line. You start out witg the Manticore and he gives you an option to go to either angels or demons. You can't access either of their shops until you chose and once you chose you can't go back. Look it up on wiki.
http://liodenwiki.wikidot.com/heaven-and-hell#toc5

http://liodenwiki.wikidot.com/heaven-and-hell#toc44

at least the event give us the option to switch.



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Edited on 06/08/18 @ 06:08:22 by KalikaRoo31 (#89224)

Axel (#6627)

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2018-08-06 06:55:58
Isnt Nirah's shop another shop, though? Oblivion still enables you to switch shops. The point still stands.

This item would NOT give you access to the other shop right away. Just reset your current score to start collecting 300 points again for the other shop. Not all players would be able to pull that off either and for them there is trading as you said. But those who can should be able to benefit from both shops. Not just those who are on literally 24/7.

Dont flaunt an event feature you keep away from the majority of the playerbase.



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KalikaRoo31 (#89224)


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2018-08-06 10:10:23
I'm only on once or twice a day normally and it only took me 4 days to open the shop. I consider that being easy enough to switch.



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