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2018-12-25 02:51:23
By the title it sounds stupid Ik, but this isn't for adults or old lions who died, this is for cubs who may die from either no protection, or from not being nested in time. I learned this the hard way, and I thought of this as a suggestion! Why not a item that can resurrect a dead cub? let me explain:

This item is a one use only, it can ONLY be bought from October Event. The Heavens is where the item will be. The item could be around 140+ Demonic Scales, not a cheap item and WILL affect karma (-30 Good 30+ Evil)

Once the cub dies, you have a 7 day time limit that you're able to resurrect the cub, like if a lion ran away, you can use this item on the cub and it will come back alive, however... here's the negatives to this happening:

(these are just suggestions, anyone can pick what they like or don't like and idk if this will eVER become official)

1. The Stats are halved, perhaps from Brain/body damage the cub isn't able to be as strong as it once was
2. There may be damage to your Karma, aka you get evil karma added for reviving them, as you let them die in the first place (bad for good kings)
(suggested By Owlette)
3. The Opacity of the markings will be lowered rather than completely taken off
4. The lion will no longer be liable to being kinged/heir'd due to it not being as strong or have the right qualifications to it.

Here's also a little thought of what the mother would say once you bring the cub back:

"Name is very depressed about her litter passing away, however You come to her with a cub! she looks at it and seems to feel strange about it, it doesn't look like the cub she gave birth to, but she recognizes its hers and happily snuggles them with a smile on her face."

Here's also what the item says when you use it on the cub:
"The heavens feel bad for this cub, whispering to Name, Name runs to you in a vision, where you awake to Name standing next to you, ready to come home"

please, PLEASE, give your thoughts, suggestions and all sorts! i'd love to hear your guys's thoughts and additions to this suggestion



This suggestion has 145 supports and 14 NO supports.



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Edited on 25/12/18 @ 22:57:10 by DicloniusPony (HORSEDEN WHEN) (#105803)

SleepyOwlette (#100199)

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2018-12-25 03:03:00
Hm. To be honest, I'm not sure how I feel about this suggestion. I like it, and it's quite interesting. Seems like a lot of work for the coders but I mean if this got enough votes and they did decide to do it, it would be . . . well interesting is the only word that comes to mind. Definitely fits the name and month. Has a decent penalty for -not to be insulting- the player's negligence in caring for their cubs.

The third part with the mutation overwrite to 'Brain Damage'. I like it? Doesn't fit the meaning of 'mutation' in my mind so maybe go by a different name or have some form of marker. The chance of markings lost- well I assume most would resurrect the cub particularly because of the markings so that might make the item less appealing. Less opacity or chance of passing the markings I feel is good.

Perhaps the resurrected cub is no longer a viable Heir? Due to the fact it was resurrected it wouldn't be strong enough/fully capable in most capacities of being kinged.



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2018-12-25 03:08:01
@owlette thank you for the suggestion! I;m not exactly sure what to exactly name the mutation part (it doesn't even have to be a mutation, it was suggested by a friend on discord <3 ) but I can change it!

thats also true, maybe a 40% chance the markings won't pass? or perhaps the low opacity sounds good! sometimes its also about the base, or the mutation itself (like if a dwarf or first gen gon/pon)

yess i do love that!! do you mind if i add it ?



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SleepyOwlette (#100199)

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2018-12-25 03:09:47
Sure- and that's true, forgot about when having a special base or fancy mut you might like, how devastating it could feel to lose the cub. Yes, though, feel free to add my suggestion ^.^



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2018-12-25 03:10:29
thank you <3 and mhm, if it was a mutie replacer or something, that would be absolutely devastating



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grimekid (#149141)

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2018-12-25 04:22:11
I'm not sure I would support this item if it stays in this form.

My thought is that if this item is worth, like, 150 Demonic Scales, it's going to be inherently valuable and people are going to save it for lions that are also inherently valuable. So, lions with rare markings, mutations, high stats, etc. But then all of the disadvantages you've listed greatly reduce or just straight up delete those valuable attributes.

Why would I bring back my 10,000 stat cub if it's just going to have 5,000 afterwards and I can wait for another breeding? Why would I bring back my Rosette bomb project if it might not even have half the Rosette markings anymore and I can wait for another breeding? Why would I bring back my Tigon if it has a chance to just not even be a Tigon anymore?

The only sort of value left is sentimental value for lineage preservation or roleplay, and that's not really something that can be translated onto the market. Even though clean lines are popular right now, you can't quantify that interest like you can a rare item. It's just a personal preference.

But I also worry about the effects of making it a plentiful item. If it costs anywhere from 10-50 Demonic Scales, we could see users purposefully killing and resurrecting dead cubs to inflate their mutation counter. If markings, mutation, and stats aren't a concern, and the lion otherwise functions without limits, Resurrection essentially becomes a cheap MoD.

It might be better if the disadvantages it applies revolve more around gameplay than genetics. Instead of losing stats, both male and female lions are made infertile. Instead of losing markings, male lions cannot patrol/become kings and female lions cannot hunt. Instead of having a mutation removed/applied, it could be contained to flavor text that appears when the item is used and during random interactions.

This is definitely an interesting concept, but I feel like it needs a lot of work.



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2018-12-25 11:18:19
@grimekid well,that's the point,if you neglect your Cub it comes with consequences. That list is just things you can pick and choose from, not all of it at once. This would be a very expensive item, and it's not something people would want mutation wise (if it even IS a mutation, as owlette brought up)



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☁️june (#161054)

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2018-12-25 11:22:53
support support support! ive lost some rare cubs to the treacherous unprotected disease, i need this!!

for how it could look, maybe a cross between an Angelic Blessing and some other item? like possibly a gem with beams coming out of it? i don't really know lol

dont have to add this btw im just giving ideas ^^



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2018-12-25 14:56:09
I love this idea! I agree with Grimekid, tho.
"It might be better if the disadvantages it applies revolve more around gameplay than genetics. Instead of losing stats, both male and female lions are made infertile. Instead of losing markings, male lions cannot patrol/become kings and female lions cannot hunt. Instead of having a mutation removed/applied, it could be contained to flavor text that appears when the item is used and during random interactions."

But whatever happens, this item has to happen. :D



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Edited on 25/12/18 @ 14:57:57 by Inupei (#12065)

Ruesivonitu (#148692)

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2018-12-25 22:50:30
I agree with Grimekid... It would be useless if you revive the cub and you loose the REASON Why you wanted to cub back... I wanted to get my muties back.. but Id just leave them dead if I meant loosing the mutie.



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2018-12-25 22:51:59
@ruesi well, it could be a penalization for letting the cub die in the first place, however i removed that detail a few minutes ago and changed some stuff to the item (sorry im changing it alot to try and fit a better perspective)



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Ruesivonitu (#148692)

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2018-12-25 22:55:24
Sometimes people can't remember to protect some cubs.. I lost my muties cause of a mass breeding project before hand... and I couldn't keep up with both myself AND what ones were protected.
And they have busy lives.
The only reason for people to revive cubs would be to get ones back that are WORTHY of loosing Currency for the lion.. If this was to be added to lioden then its not going to be cheap. Not even close.



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2018-12-25 22:59:12
@ruesi i said it wouldn't be very cheap XD its over 140+ Demonic Scales for just 1,
tbh theres not much we can do, besides write a name for each special one and then just protect them and leave, so its always hard tbh. As I said it would be good for the Heavens shop in october, as they'd look down on what has happened and try to fix it for you



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Petry (#106326)

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2020-03-30 03:05:00
I love this idea and support it completely!
It makes sense that it’s only available during an event. I honestly thought that when a cub died you could buy them again like when they ran away... but I was obviously wrong.
This idea would probably take quite some work to become reality, but I consider it to be worth it. :)



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E.T. (#247237)

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2022-09-18 07:42:09
I love this idea cause i just had a cub that died and its one out of the 2 cubs i wanted to live cause i forgot to protect her.



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