Posted by PVP/territory stat ranges

Vlad (#19940)

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2019-04-20 01:03:56
PVP is an essential feature in Lioden, particularly towards the start of the game when you lack territory. Unfortunately, this is also the time where it is most inconvenient, particularly for new players.

On a new account, where you king has low stats, it's very difficult to find someone on the territory screen in your stat range to fight. You'll take time tediously trawling through each territory square with the dim hope of finding someone with 2 digit stats, only to find that the three similarly low stat lions have already been fought for territory. I've usually given up by this point.

I never noticed this was an issue until I made a side account and started from the beginning again. This is definitely not an issue later in the game. However, I imagine this frustrating, awkward experience can put off new players, when the game should be drawing them in.


So my suggestion to fix this is to implement stat ranges. Only display other kings in your stat range in the territory screen.
This allows players to easily find someone they can have a fighting chance with. Currently on a new account, trying to get territory is just tedious and painful.

In the later game, this is no issue, so it won't affect most of the active playerbase, but I think this will be a great quality of life improvement for new accounts.


"It has no challenge"
I specified in your stat range. You can still encounter kings with higher stats, and you may very well lose to other lions, so this aspect is not affected. But if clicking through pages to find someone with 2 digit stats is your idea of a challenge, I don't really know what to say.
"I've never been affected by this issue"
Chances are if you're reading this, your account isn't new, and your king has decent stats, so it indeed won't affect you. Consider your newbie days, or make a side account, and see how it is then.
"Finding territory early game is meant to be difficult"
Yes, but not unfair. Most people on my side's territory screen I have no chance against. I still sometimes lose to other low stat lions. With this change, I would have a chance against all the other lions, whilst still having the risk of losing.



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This suggestion has 23 supports and 1 NO support.



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Edited on 20/04/19 @ 01:04:44 by Vlad (#19940)

Tori (#114506)

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2019-04-20 04:08:34
I'm supporting this, because it was extremely frustrating at first, but there is an easy workaround. You can just go to "Search" from Crossroads, specify the Level of lion you want to fight, then Search. From there, click "T. Stats" at the very top of the search results, which changes the way the resulting lions are Sorted to "Lowest-->Highest" based on stats. From there you can just click on lions who are in the right stat range for your lion. You can fight them from their main page.

Now, I think that this is NOT intuitive, and to expect a new player to figure this out is ridiculous. (I didn't figure it out until after getting my territory to 40, and booooy oh boy was I irate when I discovered that....) So I think your idea IS good--but there's a workaround in the mean-time.



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Edited on 20/04/19 @ 04:09:17 by Tori (#114506)

emperor (#135727)

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2019-04-20 04:14:03
I would agree with this.

It was hard to find players with low stats at the start of lioden.



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Vlad (#19940)

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2019-04-20 04:15:29
Thanks for letting me know Tori, I think that will definitely help out on my side for now.



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Tori (#114506)

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2019-04-20 04:18:49
Glad to hear it'll be helpful for you. I've been using it a lot to level my newly kinged boy, and it's useful for boys with higher stats, too. You can put in a stat amount that works for your lion and it'll bring up anything that # and up.

Hope this gets seen, because for sure the territory screen is frustrating at best. Good idea. :)



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Growrr (#16845)

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2019-04-20 04:53:03
Maybe it would be easier if a square owner's stats was shown as a tooltip over that square? There was a similar thing with the level some time ago, but then it has been removed for some reason.



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TheOakWoods (#167680)

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2019-04-22 07:15:08
SO MUCH SUPPORT. I joined in January, and it's such a pain to find someone who has less stat than your rolled king. I'm just kinging an inbred 1600+ stat as soon as my rolled king gets old and I DON'T CARE IF I WANTED MY PRIDE TO BE CLEAN LINED I WANT TO WIN PVP



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Fawn (#3654)

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2019-04-22 11:21:19
I used the search to fight PvP battles it's way easier then the territory squares. But I support any way cuz I have seen a lot of new players that don't seem to know about the search.



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Ivypool (#163513)

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2019-04-23 05:44:12
I actually had the same problem when I started out in Lioden, but I quickly realized that you could just use the search option and look for lions your level or a few levels below you since there were bound to be some with less stats than yours. So yeah, after around 3 days in lioden, I never touched the territory map again. :P
I kinda find using the search option a lot easier, so I don't think I'll be encountering this problem anymore if I made a side acc...
I'll just not vote, I guess? I don't really know.



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