-LOCKED - Community Update #36!
Posted on 2019-07-26 17:58:24

Community Update:
As we mentioned before, aside from event news and the 2nd Friday of the month being focused on coding/art updates all at once, all other Fridays are centered around the community!

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Official Lioden Raffle
LINK - This is our Official Lioden Raffle. Everyone gets a chance to win a rare prize, plus something extra for any runner ups. These raffles have a very minimal ticket price, and there is a limit of 1 ticket per account to make it fair! Good luck!
This raffle will automatically end on 2019-08-02 00:00:00.


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Code of Conduct Adjustments


We have added in two new points to our Code of Conduct today underneath the Community Interaction area:

1.26 b) Some transactions may have unenforceable terms and will not be protected under this rule. *
* Added within "1.26 Do not scam players."

1.28 Do not try to control what other people do, or how other people play the game.

From this point on, anyone that is conducting sales which aim to control how other players use the assets you have sold them will have one week from today to remove these terms from their threads or trades. If any threads or trades remain after August 2nd, our staff team will then handle them accordingly.

The Code of Conduct now also no longer lists two instances of "2.1" underneath the Accounts & Trading area.


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Input Needed Regarding Possible New Official Systems: Art Sales and Reverse Breedings


We are aware that Lioden has a very strong art-based market. We have also noticed how popular reverse breedings have been on Lioden, and it seems they're only gaining further traction as time goes on. In order to protect players as well as to make these types of transactions go more smoothly, we are considering adding in official systems for art sales and reverse breedings.

This is where you guys come in. We'd love to hear your input on how we can put these systems in place, your suggestions for how they can work, as well as anything else you might have to say about them!

Official Thread for Art Sale System - please post there with your ideas, input, and opinions on an official art sale system.

Official Thread for Reverse Breeding System - please post there with your ideas, input, and opinions on an official reverse breeding system.

Please be aware that these are both major updates. If the general feedback is positive and our coders can figure out a system that works well, they will take some time to implement. These threads do not mean that they will be implemented; if we cannot come to a conclusion or the majority of the feedback seems to be against these systems, they may not be implemented at all.


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Raffle Lioness


Congrats Lynxes 🐾 (#136933)! You have won last week's Wine lady, woo!
A new Cocoa lady with Shell Lace, Dim Black, and the ninth The Drakensberg background is up for impressing in the Special Lioness area linked here!

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Tags!
Shad has added new tags this week in the Appreciation, Breeding, and July categories!

Poll Results - The majority of votes seem to be in favour of Scoundrel having Red Medium Countershaded genetics. Worry not, though - we know Goldens need their time to shine and we hope to implement some unique Golden bases soon!

NEW POLL - Official free studdings! How do you feel about it, and is it something you'd like to see implemented? Let us know your thoughts through this poll! Please keep in mind that this poll is not asking if we should remove the ability to stud for currency entirely - it would only add the option to stud out your king for free.


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Next Big Update: August 9th!

Friday goofy doodle comic:


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Dalton 🖤 ORCHID
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Posted on
2019-07-27 13:12:51
Official Art Sale Ideas

I'm not sure if this is where we're suppose to post this, and I'm very open to feedback on this idea. I see a lot of hurdles implementing this on the site, but I think it will be well worth for the site overall. I know people who buy GB, have no interest in lions or the games, just to buy art over our forum. I think offering an art sale system would be a great addition to the site. This is just my immediate thoughts on a possible new system for this, and while it might not be the best, it hopefully will spark some better ideas.


First thing that would need to be addressed, would be some form of barrier to entry and how to set up a shop. Some people may not care for this concept, but I think is vital to keeping the quality of art decent and not just have a flooding of random art pieces. I'm not proposing that this barrier be exactly GB/SB, it could be as simple as account age or number of rollovers, but there should be something to set up a shop.

Second, what will be the basic set up of the Art Sale individual area? I think the easiest to implement and for players to use would essentially be an "Art Branch". There could be a top portion with slots for sample art pieces, where I think additional art sample slots should cost SB/GB like how the current branch works. The bottom portion would be art for sale, where again, I think additional sale slots should cost SB/GB. OR Each sample up to would equal the amount of art sale slots you could have, so it helps ensures the seller is not selling anything that doesn't have at least one clear example of.

Third thing, is how are sample art pieces to be displayed? Obviously, the site isn't going to want to be hosting a ton of images for random, so a solution would be a series of predetermined sized slots that would be populated by the player with URLs much like the unique avatar system already on the site.

Fourth, how will the art transaction occur between players? I think each "art item" available for purchase should have a small image, a title (head shot, full body color), size (in pixels, not "large), Color (yes/no), and a short description of full scope of work provided. When purchased, there should be an area for the buyer to comment and post links for example of their characters or what they want. Artist would then accept the art commission, and an automessage would be sent to the buyer, something like, "ARTISTPLAYER has accepted your art commission! It will be completed within ___ days!" When the artist finishes, they would post the link of the finished piece in a supplied area, and then the artist would mark it as completed.

Fifth, about the costs/money transaction, ect. I think it would be best for when an art commission is purchased, the money for the art piece should go into non-player-limbo, much like an auction bid, and released upon completion. This does two things; 1.) Ensure the buyer can pay for the art and that artist will be paid that the end, 2.) Ensure that if the art piece is never completed, there can be an easy refund by staff. I don't think art requests should be cancel able, just because a buyer wants to spend the GB on something else because it is likely the artist is already working on the piece.

Sixth, there will need to be outlined which type of links and art are publicly allowed to be sold and listed. Because this site is 16+, will adult art be allowed? Which art sites are allowed to be linked by artists? What are the repercussions for those posting adult art or adult links? Is adult art fine to request as long as it's a private transaction? Will there be an additional age requirement for art shop section then? Should all art follow the COC? Food for thought for staff implementing this function.

Seventh, how will the art sales section be policed and modded by staff? What rules should be in place and what is not enforceable? Here are some bullet points on my thoughts on rules.
-I believe there should be a rule involving providing art within the time provided, with perhaps a three day or week leeway of after the date before the paid price should be refunded.
-I believe art quality should be very lightly policed, to limit the staff having to deal with buyers remorse of nit-picky buyers. Should the art piece be drastically different than the sample provided or not at all like what the buyer wanted,
-I believe that if an artist consistently commits bad practices (such as bait and switch example provided about, or failure to provide art, or failure to consistently finish art in time) that the art shop privilege should be revoked through a temporary or permanent art sale ban.
-I believe that if a buyer consistently commits bad practices they should be banned from buying art, such as constantly contesting completed projects, harassing artists, ect.
-There should be a basic outline of what frequently used terms mean to provide structure, such as what a headshot would be, what a fullbody would be, ect.

Payment given for art sales, a small percentage should in some way go to the Lioden site like the custom decor, but not at all as pricey. I'm not sure what this would look like, I'm open to ideas. I'll probably add to this later, a little tired of typing!


EDIT: I'm SORRY! Moving it!


Admin Response:
Thank you for your feedback, but please post it on our art sale system discussion thread!


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Edited on 27/07/19 @ 13:15:30 by Dalton 🖤 (9 pulsar bred) (#149529)

LadyOlg (#102006)

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Posted on
2019-07-27 13:49:46
This eye !!!! This comics !!!! This cutiest lion



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Nicole Rockers (#124231)

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Posted on
2019-07-27 16:32:05
The comic resembles me and my friend. I'm not telling you which one is me, yoU CAN'T MAKE ME-



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Jaylayn (#111670)

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Posted on
2019-07-27 18:05:46
Neat! Love this week’s comic!



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Lucien (#150782)

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Posted on
2019-07-27 22:12:33
i'm not sure if this has been asked or not yet, but i have a question about the new 1.28 rule!
does this new rule apply to art and adopt sales as well? such as having a term that says that the adopt or piece must be either credited or can't be sold for more than what it was bought for?


Admin Response:
No, this rule specifically pertains only to Lioden assets. Art is copyrighted to its creator and they can determine how it is used and how it can be profited off of.


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llarMR&MS} (#98227)

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Posted on
2019-07-28 09:44:12
Awesome I love the new update! :D



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Perune [G2 Cracked
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Posted on
2019-07-30 07:15:05
Adorable comic!



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