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I can assure you that Primal (Ferus) rates have not been touched whatsoever since the mutation was implemented in March. We do not tweak breeding rates like this without making some mention on the site or in the news. Primal (Ferus) lions are "falling out of popularity" due to how common they were previously thanks to Mukombero being dropped during March and through community update raffles. Their breeding rates are still the same and have not been adjusted in any way.

Just a heads up also that I moved this thread out of "Game Development: Existing Feature Adjustments" and to "Game Help" as it wasn't really a suggestion. :)

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Thank you for the reply!

I understand the popularity thing, but thats not what Im stumped about.

Ive been scratching my head though, despite having 80 lionesses and 2 ferus kings, Ive seen fewer and fewer within my own pride as well as other ferus kings when looking at their heritages.

There a trend from the original kings where there would be 5-6 ferus born within a short time, then it trickles out to nothing. Second gen kinds have fewer and 3rd and 4th have even less. Same with other primals being born in those prides too.

As for my Ferus girls, they arent popping out any ferus babies. the only ones Ive gotten were from normal lionesses within my own pride, not even NCLs.

Just seems odd that even ferus kings have had a huge drop off in ferus cub breeding. Ive not swapped out my ferus kings for any other mutation or stats, except to base change or get a younger ferus king, so Im just wondering why it is we are seeing a dip in ferus being born WITHIN prides who still have ferus kings.

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I haven't personally seen a drop. My breeding partner and I breed about 40-50 NCLs once or twice a week. We've seen a steady rate of 1-2 ferus cubs per run

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Probably just bad luck, I'm guessing. I've noticed this a bit too, but I can also see how it is just random luck either way. My boy had three ferus cubs in his first week or so of being king, but I haven't seen another since(between both in my own pride and from studding). On the flip side, my side account's boy has only ever had one ferus (that I know about), and he's a first gen ferus (2nd gen as far as his overall heritage, but he wasn't bred from ferus, he was bred with Mukombero).

It's not really a numbers game the way most might think, you have to remember that. No matter how many lionesses you breed to a ferus, the odds for each individual cub to be born ferus are the same. The only thing you increase is your overall chances. It's like a ticket raffle; no matter how many tickets you put in, there's still only one that will win, be it yours or someone else's. There is no "after X many fails, you get a ferus" type of deal with the way it works. It has a set pass rate, and the system rolls each cub independently of each other. Let's say it's a 5% chance (for simplicity sake), while you might think that if you breed 20 cubs, at least 1 will be ferus, that's not the case. It's like sex (genetically) in humans or any other species with the "XY" system. I know plenty of big families that only have girls or only have boys or all but one kid is boy/girl, even though by the genetics and math there is a 50/50 chance of each child being either. Specifically, I can say I know a family with 8 kids(most of who are now adults) and out of all of them there's only one brother, verses my siblings and I of which there is an even number of both.

If you're really concerned about it, you could probably start a thread or something for collecting data on ferus pass rate. If you have a massive sample, you'll get a decent idea of what the actual odds might be and whether or not your own breeding matches up to them or not. You could have just gotten lucky before and now not so lucky. Also, the interest in ferus going down means people who own ferus studs might have begun to slow down their mass breeding attempts to get it. Of course, that isn't going to be true for everyone, but if there has been a noticeable drop in ferus births, that could be why. Less interest in ferus means its become less valuable, so many breeders have probably moved on to other focuses.

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