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{Shamhna} πŸŽƒ [S] (#9102)

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2020-03-05 23:40:32

Small Adult Sex Changer AdjustmentPlease dont be just Cynics & Critics, be Helpful! πŸ˜…

While I have looked into similar post on the matter, I didn't really find anything that is like what I'd be suggesting. If there is a post that is similar, do let me know so that I can make the decision to delete this or attempt to keep it up.
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Welcome To My Seminar!
So as we all know the Sex Changers seem pretty simple and easy to use, but there is one thing that bugs me about one of them. Before we get into that let's review these two particular items:
Cub Sex Changer - Use this item on a cub or adolescent between 0 to 23 months of age to change its sex. If the cub or adolescent has a sex-specific mutation, it will be permanently wiped.

Adult Sex Changer - Use this item on an adult lion between 24-36 months of age to change its sex. Must not have bred, hunted, or patrolled. Mutated lions and lions without heritage cannot be sex changed.


I'm sure that this is aggravating to someone of you as well, let's review the last sentence of the Adult Sex Changer: Mutated lions and lions without heritage cannot be sex changed.

Read it again minus one thing: Mutated lions and lions without heritage cannot be sex changed.
Why all Mutations? Why not just restrict the gender specific ones like Smilus or Mane Mutations? Why must all Mutations be restricted to only being Sex Change-able at 0 months to 1 year, 11 months?

What Am I Suggesting?
My Suggestion is to allow the Sex Changing of the non gender specific mutations to be like any other lion, at 2-3 years old with the same rules stated in the items description.
Example Text:
Adult Sex Changer - Use this item on an adult lion between 24-36 months (2-3 years) of age to change its sex. This includes any nonsex-specific mutations. Must not have bred, hunted, or patrolled. Lions without heritage cannot be sex changed.

This would be a relatively small change to allow Mutations that affect both genders like Achromia, Blind, Bobbed Tail, Clawless, Dwarfism, Eyeless, Felis, Folded Ears, Melanism, Primal, Polycaudal, Tailless, Toothless, Overgrown Claws, Overgrown Teeth as well as all Piebalds and Patches to be Sex Changed at 0 months and up to 3 years of age as long as that lion has not been bred, hunted, or patrolled at any time. Sex-specific mutations would not be able to have their sex changed with this adjustment.

Why Am I Making This Suggestion?
Because I often have real life things to attend to and I often forget when mutated lions can be sex changed. I've had to sale/kill/chase/nature preserve very beautiful males that I wanted to keep and change to female but couldn't because of real life and by the time I get the chance/GB to sex change them - it's too late. I'm saying this because I know that someone is bound to say "Just change them when they are Cubs like I do."
Well, there's a problem or two with that. One problem with that statement is that some users my not have that 1 GB to buy the Sex Changer and it takes time to obtain just 1 GB, especially for new users who are still learning the ropes.
Problem Two, real life gets crazy! People have families, kids, pets, jobs that are more of a priority then a game. This means that is very easy to forget teeny tiny details like that which can result in reluctantly getting rid of a Mutie that is no longer of age to be sex changed or to have it just sit and wither away in a users den. I myself have this gorgeous boy that I wanted to sex change and keep, now he'll just wither away as I don't have a use for him and I love him too much to get rid of him. Well, what happened? Real life, my family's small house has a total of six people (including my daughter and I) plus three loving cats living under the same roof. This means that I often get too busy to sit and remember absolutely everything that I need to do on the game. I'm certain that others have just as, if not even more so of a busy life than I do.

Conclusion
I bet that this seems like a very simple suggestion, but I understand that it's easier said than done. It will take time and consideration to see if it is possible to make this adjustment. But just imagine the possibilities! Everyone would have more time to sex change the pretty lions that they adore and wish to keep at all costs! Imagine being able to sex change your beautiful lions at 3 years old rather than the short time span of 1 year, 11 months old! No more lions wasting away due to short sex changing age restrictions! πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰
Go click that Support button and Lioden a much cooler place!


πŸ™†β€β™€οΈ Thank you to all who stopped by to check this out and to those that know the struggle and clicked "Support"!

πŸ™…β€β™€οΈ If you do not support this idea then please explain why and toss in some helpful info that could help make this possible. Please don't just hate the idea because you personally don't like it or personally don't see a use for it as others could greatly benefit from this.

πŸ‘ Do you have a sharp eye and see something that should be added or changed? Let me know! I'll toss your added idea/suggestion right here on the main post for all to see!

πŸŽ† Thank you and good night! πŸŽ†




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β€’ cynΒ·ic (noun) 1. a person who believes that people are motivated purely by self-interest rather than acting for honorable or unselfish reasons.

β€’ critΒ·iΒ·cal (adjective) 1. expressing adverse or disapproving comments or judgments.
β€’ critΒ·ic (noun) 1. a person who expresses an unfavorable opinion of something.

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Edited on 28/04/23 @ 03:05:15 by {Shamhna, T.P.Q}πŸŽƒ[M] (#5131)

{Shamhna} πŸŽƒ [S] (#9102)

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2020-03-05 23:40:42
Reserved for something, but idk what it is yet.



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Edited on 05/03/20 @ 23:41:29 by {𝕋.β„™.β„š}πŸŽƒ[Side] (#9102)

timbergray (#180986)

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2020-03-06 00:03:32
I've always wondered why adult lions can't be sex-changed with mutations, but cubs could. It never really made much sense to me that that additional restriction was added. What about people who were looking to buy those lions? They'd be left with no choice. And a lot of lions seem to be sold starting at 2 years old, which means already too late to change it. I know most people would be looking for females, so some might give the generic idea of just go ahead and change all mutated cubs to female, but some people might be looking to get an heir and find their otherwise perfect lion in female and be out of luck if the lion just happens to be recently aged into adult.



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{Shamhna} πŸŽƒ [S] (#9102)

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2020-03-06 01:05:40
timbergray (#180986) - I think that the additional restriction comes from a problem that Lioden had years ago when I was new-ish to the game. Back then the Adult Sex Changer did work on Adult Muties but users abused that. They were Sex Changing Mane Mutated Females to Male and back then they kept the mutation. So we had Kings with a Female mutation on the appearance page, the male line art would still be Male but under 'Mutation' it had a Female Mane Mutation listed there and users were claiming that the mutation could pass from their King - which was not true. I don't know for sure, but that could be the reason for the Adult Sex Changer restriction that we have now.

That is a wonderful point. Some may very well sex Change some of their mutated lions before selling them, which means that the buyer would be out of luck if they were looking to sex change that lion.

Another reason that this could be beneficial is - we'd have more time to see which AMP lions have which adult mutation before deciding to sex change them. Right now it's a toss up on some of the male and female AMPs, like what if you get a Female AMP - you dont know which AMP it will turn out to be. What if it turned out to be an Overgrown Claws that would have made the perfect Heir for you or someone else? Well, by the time the mutation shows, it would be too late. You'd have to start your search all over again then decide what to do with your undesired lion. I can only imagine how frustrating it is to find the perfect mutated Lion and not be able to sex change it because of its age.



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π•·π–Žπ–‘ (#177593)

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2020-03-09 18:10:19
This would be so helpful. ^^Such a bummer that that happened, and now we can't change mutated adults.
Nonetheless, support from me



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Edited on 09/03/20 @ 18:11:13 by β™‘π•·π–Žπ–‘β™‘ (#177593)

{Shamhna} πŸŽƒ [S] (#9102)

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2020-03-09 18:12:46
β™‘π•·π–Žπ–‘β™‘ (#177593) - Thank you so much for your support!!



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Raven (#191518)

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2020-03-09 18:12:59
definitely Yes, but maybe the reason for mutations not being able to sex change is because itll change the mutation too much? and idk, I guess that's too unrealistic? imagine being a big ol felis gal, then when youre fresh outta sub stage and have full fangs, full mane, anatomy, etc, changing to a completely different anatomy creature would be kinda odd? idk I had it in my head but then it just disappeared so sorry if this is a jumbled mess of words. maybe there should be a time limit like "since its a mutation, itll slowly change over 3 days." so its not too unrealistic. (I know sex changing is already unrealistic but eh) and there most likely wont be new lineart, but if there were itd be cool to see the change from amle to female.



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{Shamhna} πŸŽƒ [S] (#9102)

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2020-03-09 18:25:46
Julia~Side (#191518) - ^^; I'm afraid that I dont completely understand what your saying. All I'm suggesting is that Adult Muties be Sex Changeable like a regular lions, up to 3 years of age instead if 1 year, 11 months - to extend the time frame to Sex Change Adult Muties. It doesn't really make sense that only Cub Sex Changers can be used on Muties but regular lions have up to 3 years to be Sex Changed. The art/mutation would not be changed in anyway, so I'm afraid that I'm a tad confused.



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iris martengender
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2020-03-09 18:45:17
this suggestion has been made lots of times with no success, and i doubt its something devs would ever implement. there's probably a reason why, such as coding. i just cant see a reason why the extra years would really be needed, since you already have 2 years until they age up to sex change them. i myself can't remember the last time i used an adult sex changer, or if i ever have.



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{Shamhna} πŸŽƒ [S] (#9102)

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2020-03-09 18:58:18
sisix πŸ₯© [plsdontping] (#98306) - While I did look for other suggestions, I didnt find one like what I'm proposing. I've seen one that suggests a new sex Changer be created specifically for adult Muties and one that suggests the Adult Sex Changer would allow patrolled lions to be Sex Changed.
And technically, we don't get 2 years to Sex change Adult Muties, we get shorted by a month - when a Mutie reaches 2 years of age, it can no longer be Sex Changed. I've also stated in a previous comment that it could be beneficial for AMPs: "Another reason that this could be beneficial is - we'd have more time to see which AMP lions have which adult mutation before deciding to sex change them." And no offense, but not everyone is like you. Everyone is different as to how they do things here. ^^;



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Bezthiel πŸ‰ (#81210)

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2020-03-09 19:21:48
"timbergray (#180986) - I think that the additional restriction comes from a problem that Lioden had years ago when I was new-ish to the game. Back then the Adult Sex Changer did work on Adult Muties but users abused that. They were Sex Changing Mane Mutated Females to Male and back then they kept the mutation. So we had Kings with a Female mutation on the appearance page, the male line art would still be Male but under 'Mutation' it had a Female Mane Mutation listed there and users were claiming that the mutation could pass from their King "

Can confirm that this is what happened. Mutations couldn't pass at all then though, so this was always a dumb reason. It being against the rules to lie like that and all.

But now we have a blurb that directly says mutations can't pass. And who honestly cares if my kkng says he has mane frizzy?

Or have it remove sex specific mutations, same as the cub one.



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Raven (#191518)

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2020-03-09 19:40:21
Ahh yep I knew it doesn't make sense sorry!! I forgot what I meant already... I guess getting 4 hours of sleep every night isn't very good...!



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timbergray (#180986)

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2020-03-09 21:52:59
Removing sex specific mutations, just like cubs, would make total sense to me. Basically it would be just like changing a cub, only lets it work for young adult lions.



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{Shamhna} πŸŽƒ [S] (#9102)

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2020-03-09 22:31:12
Bezthiel (#81210) - Thank you for adding some confirmation to my statement, I had a strong feeling that was why the Adult Sex Changer restriction had become do tight but I wasn't totally sure.
And not to cause conflict with one of your statements("And who honestly cares if my kkng says he has mane frizzy") - but I'd say that it's the principle of things since Mane Frizzy is a female only mutation. If Lioden allowed things like that then we'd be right back were we where years ago, users would claim that their King could pass that mutation and it wouldn't be true. Frankly, I believe that a Male shouldn't be able to possess a Female mutation and a Female shouldn't be able to possess a Male Mutation. That might just be me though. ^^; *nervous laugh*

Julia~Side (#191518) - Lol, it's ok. Me brain no worky either on little bits of sleep. Its totally fine, do try to get some more rest though! Sleep is good, sleep is important - take care of yourself!

timbergray (#180986) - Yes, you get it! I did think about suggesting that Adult Sex Changers should be able to work like Cub Sex Changers - but I didnt particularly like the thought of losing a certain mutation because of gender specifics. Hence just stating that sex specific ones could not be changed. But yes, you have an excellent concept of this Suggestion!! πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰



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2020-03-10 21:40:36
I actually bought the adult sex changer out of my long-awaited, saved-up-for, SB-to-GB funds, and I was P***ED as heck when I realised about the mutation thing. Now, my gorgeous heir will rot away, and she's already too old for me to change, even if you did get it through.

Honestly, full support from my corner, no questions asked



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{Shamhna} πŸŽƒ [S] (#9102)

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2020-03-10 22:19:16
Constellation (#171733) - πŸ˜” I'm terribly sorry that you too have been a victim of the sex changing age restriction, your experience is one good example as to why I have made this Suggestion. I can only imagine how frustrated you must be, I'm so sorry.

Thank you kindly for your support! Hopefully, with the help of our fellow Lioden community, we will be able to see this Suggestion come to fruition!

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Special Thanks to all 50 users who are supporting! Thank you all so much, you are all wonderful!


To the 5 no supporters, I'm curious to know why you arent supporting. If your afraid to comment your reason publicly, then please feel free to PM it to me! I'd be happy to listen as to why you dont support this!
(Keep in mind, this Suggestion is for the community - just because you wont use this doesn't mean that others cant benefit from it. ^^;)



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