-LOCKED - Rumble Marking Clarification
Posted on 2020-05-05 15:40:51

Rumble Markings



As per our last news post, we would like to give you an update on the status of the rumble markings.

We have had a small number of threads over the past few days pop up discussing this marking with comments ranging from dislike of the marking, to the marking making them feel uncomfortable, to the marking having the potential to cause a seizure. We take comments like this very seriously and went further to investigate this.

Today, we sought legal clarification over the marking. We have been advised that we are compliant and meet all legal requirements and there is no reason that the marking should be removed from the game or that any additional warning notice needs to be given out. Additionally, the marking itself was not flagged as a typical risk.

However, we have decided to go above and beyond the requirements and have added a warning to our Terms of Service. This also concerns user submitted content. Users can display content of their choice (within reason, and assuming it complies with our Terms and Code of Conduct) on their den pages, in their avatars, lion bios, topic posts, etc. Most of these are not moderated in advance, and only when they are reported to us, so we feel it is now prudent to include this warning in our terms regardless.

We must ask that if you have noticed any adverse effects while accessing Lioden at any point, to discontinue use of the site immediately and seek medical help from a physician.

Rumble markings are now back on the site and the applicator has returned to Vashkartzen’s reputation shop. We will be keeping them in the second, revised version that was posted recently.

Rather than discuss this ad nauseum, we have made a final decision, and we will not be accepting any new suggestion threads, petitions or campaigns for the marking to be removed or adjusted. The marking can be discussed, but when the discussion descends into fighting, disrespect or bashing of the site and staff, you will be asked to stop discussing it. Failure to comply will result in action taken against your account. This is the same as any other topic discussed on Lioden.

Due to some of the conduct on the site from a small minority of players recently, we feel that we need to remind users of the Terms of Service point 6.2.b:
“You also agree that you will not in connection with the Game:
publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which:
is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, offensive, vulgar, racist, hateful, discriminatory, obscene, pornographic, sexually suggestive, misleading, abusive or deceptive or which attacks sexual orientation, promotes self-harm or eating disorders, involves murder, rape, suicide, terrorism, excessive gore or hacking;”

Chat



In light of recent events, we've implemented a filter in the chat room. Certain words and/or phrases are now blocked, and attempting to use them will result in you being timed out from posting in chat for 60 seconds. Intentionally attempting to get around this filter will result in actions being taken against your account, as the filter itself contains very serious words and phrases that we have never allowed to be used.

Staff members are now able to timeout players for 60 seconds as well, to assist with anyone that is intentionally causing issues in chat. Please continue to flag and report inappropriate messages as you see them, however.

Along with this chat update, we have also implemented a way for players to disable the visual ping effects. You can find this toggle under the gear settings in chat. This toggle is stored to your account and carries over through devices. You can turn on and turn off ping effects as necessary.

Admin Edit: Main Chat will remain paused for the rest of the day. We will look into unpausing Main Chat during EU morning hours. Thank you for your patience.



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Edited on 05/05/20 @ 16:32:02 by Katze (#3)

Adora (#2477)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:50:49
When will chat unpause? Because it been down for to long.



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𝖘𝖔𝖓𝖊 (#72648)


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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:50:54
the chat features are very welcome. if only passive aggressive and outright hostile behaviour could be detected by a filter


Admin Response:
You're still welcome to flag comments that are passive-aggressive and hostile. Our staff team will also handle them accordingly. We do not condone hostile behaviour towards anyone.


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🍇CrunchyGrape🍇 (#169251)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:50:56
I wouldn't expect anything else from the Lioden team, they really handled this situation like professionals. I have been in favor of Rumble since it's release, although I wish it was in both shops.



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Riften | Recreated
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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:51:21
Mood noc.



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TheMorgueDonator (#83658)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:51:34
THANK YOU! i would hate to have a marking removed just because a small few didn't like it



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🐅 Tiger | FROZEN (#181564)


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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:51:48
So to my understanding we can still cuss, yes? (Sorry, I’m a little bit slow to understand this all ^^”)


Admin Response:
Yes, swears are still permitted!


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ShayBaby (#95038)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:52:04
Glad Rumble is here to stay. I, personally, love it! Easy enough to look away if you don't like it. There are plenty of other markings that could surely "trigger" someone or make them feel mildly uncomfortable, but here they are obviously still playing.



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ᴀʀɪɪ (#57603)


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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:52:05
Glad Rumble remains - thanks for everything. :)



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Guillo [kinda froze] (#107254)


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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:52:06
I'm sorry, but I feel like you really dropped the ball on this one, especially when you chose to say "we went above and beyond the requirements..." and then proceeded to add that you will not accept any further suggestions regarding rumble. Pretty disappointed.



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Moo [G2 Ferus Vit
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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:52:23
thank you for reminding people on 6.2b one of my suggestions had to deal with that and I’m hoping that this will help the main chat be a more friendly place. thank you



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corgibip (#183687)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:52:28
When will the chat be unpaused? :(



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💜 SULLY (#36102)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:52:29
Understood



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ᴀɴxɪᴇᴛʏ
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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:52:34
Thanks admin for handling this situation so professionally and calmly.



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Swyfte [Teardrop
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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:52:39
so your answer to legitimate medical problems caused by a feature you didn't HAVE to implement is telling the people who have them to get lost? i think there's only a very small percentage of the LD population that would actually be disappointed, so long as other players can play comfortably. this decision doesn't sit right with me, i'm actively disappointed to be using a website that reacts in this manner.


Admin Response:
We are sorry, but perhaps the news post has been misunderstood and we are happy to clarify.
Having our players health concerns in mind, the recommendation is to immediately stop playing the game, and was addressed to anyone who is feeling symptomatic, thus limiting the exposure to a potential trigger - as advised in all epilepsy best practices and guidelines. We hope that clarifies it for you.


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bröther (#113694)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 15:53:04
Yay! Thanks :)



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