Posted by Lion Revival Item

Atlaz (#128752)

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2020-09-16 16:56:48
Note: This is NOT like the canopic jellyfish, this item would revive the lion to a living state. Before you hit the 'no support' please read everything!

An event-specific item for reviving one lion in your pride! I was thinking it could go along with the new July storyline coming up in 2021. Celestials don't always mean death right? If the Demiurge had enough power to send your lion back in time surely he or another celestial could gift you some stardust or another form of power to bring back a lost loved one! That being said this item would have its restrictions and rules in order to be implemented!


Absolutes-
Item would be quite expensive OR hard to obtain
NO kings, only retired lions/lionesses
NO hybrids, it would have to be a straight up lion
Lion would have to age naturally, no aging items can be used(including SOD's)
The lion would have all of their traits and their original lineage intact. This means regardless of how said lion appears in its new life it wouldn't have any ties/relations to lions it didn't already have in its previous life.
You cannot sex change revived lion
You can only revive a lion/lioness once
They would be bound to your pride, so they wouldn't run away if they had low mood/thirst, similar to a Special Lioness
You can ONLY revive a lion that you own and is in your dynasty


Maybe/ideas-
Lion/Lioness could appear as a 5 month old cub and be automatically at 100% survival rate, as a 1 year old adolescent, or as a 2 year old adult to avoid too many bugs and coding issues.
Cannot chase, kill, or nature reserve a lion/lioness
You cannot sell the revived lion- (Goes along with lion being bound to your pride/lands)
You cannot king a revived lion- (This could be very easily abused)
You can only have one "revived" lion at a time, once the lion(ess) dies or is retired you can revive another
You cannot alter the revived lion's appearance outside of decor
Revived lion would not be able to pass their mutation without items(?)

Other player ideas/suggestions:

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I would love to see feedback from this suggestion, pros and cons, constructive criticism!

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Edited on 11/09/23 @ 08:07:58 by Atlaz 2.0 (#128752)

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2020-09-16 17:13:05
I support this but i think it needs more thought... Reviving a lion to a cub would be too glitchy i think- it would affect the heritage of cubs if it was randomly assigned to a broodmother, and can affect the previous cubs its had due to it now being a cub it may be considered inbreeding... this would take a LOT of coding to do or else i'm not quite sure it would work... i like the idea! I just think it needs to be thought through a bit more

- Like currently theres that item that revives lions to be immortal :)



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DrMordred (#131725)

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2020-09-16 17:13:49
edit: read it wrong

theres already item that revives lions called canopic jellyfish ., i dont think it need to be adjusted.



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Edited on 16/09/20 @ 17:23:21 by DrMordred (#131725)

Atlaz (#128752)

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2020-09-16 19:19:50
@Aura
For quick clarification, I mentioned in the OP that the cub would be adopted by the lioness in question, not birthed by her or share her/her cubs' lineage. I did say that the heritage would remain the same as when it was originally alive, so he/she would be assigned to a lioness that already had cubs, not birthed! Sorry if I didn't go in depth and cause confusion ;;

Thinking about it though, the revived lion could also appear as a 5 month old cub if that would make things easier!



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Edited on 16/09/20 @ 19:29:38 by Havoc (#128752)

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2020-09-16 19:30:29
@Havoc- oh okay- sorry i thought you meant that they would be "Rebirthed" to a lion/broodmother. Thank you for the clarification that makes a bit more sense.



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Fridge 🌈 (#249436)

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2022-12-21 21:35:14
There is an item similar to this, but it freezes them, don't think we need thousands of lions rising up from the dead to be alive again.



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Q [G1 1.6k NRLC
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2022-12-23 12:39:02
If I read the post correctly- I can see people reviving hybrids which would cause the hybrid market to go down. You could get 14-16 heats instead of the typical 7-8 out of one tigon if you know what you're doing. And I feel like being unable to alter a lion's appearance post revival is a bit much.

If they were to implement this into the game, I do like the theme of the Demiurge. I can see it as being a reward at the end of a long quest like the one to get Interstellar Remnants.

Overall I'm on the fence for this. If you reworked the restrictions more then I'd be more on board :]



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Atlaz (#128752)

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2023-09-11 08:13:42
@werewolfism [G1
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I'm terribly sorry for the late response but I like the idea of it being a demiurge reward! Maybe a once-a-year per account thing? Like the item (which could be called the Demiurge Blessing or something) couldn't be sold? I made this suggestion a long time ago and I see a lot of mostly fixable flaws with it, another rule could be that nothing unnatural could be used? Such as a yohimbe bark, unless your concern is just with hybrids, which I put up as a "cannot be revived" thing, since.. yeah as you pointed out that would really mess up the market lol

I'm super open to suggestions and ideas to improve this!



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IIV0I [G2|7x Ros|11x
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2023-09-18 23:03:34
Im sorry but no support, because even if you have a hybrid rule, there are "normal" lionesses or lions that cost a lot, like rlc's or quad+ rosettes that would still get tons of extra heats. Having an item that would give a player double the heats just doesn't make sense and although this feature would benefit me and my quads greatly, I just don't think it would be fair and thus can't support it. Its a very cool idea in theory though!



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IIV0I [G2|7x Ros|11x
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2023-09-18 23:04:48
Maybe if this made it so the lion cant be kinged/have cubs and the lioness can't breed/have cubs, it mighhttttt be okay (and I say that loosely cause it may still effect the market), but otherwise I don't support it, sorry



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Edited on 18/09/23 @ 23:06:23 by IIV0I [G2|7x Ros|11x BO|Ferus] (#407996)







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