Posted by Hybrid idea: Snowion

Scottie (Lights ON!) (#87211)

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2017-08-24 17:15:59
There are five species in the Panthera genus. One of them is lions, the main focal point of this game. Two others, the leopard and tiger, have lion hybrids in this game. Another, the jaguar, is likely to never naturally meet the lion due to this thing called the Atlantic ocean.

But that's only four. What's the fifth?

The snow leopard. And I propose we have snow leopard/lion hybrids, what I call snowions, in this game.

Now, I realize that there are no living 'snowions' today. And that Snow Leopards are in north Asia and lions are in Africa.

However, I quote Wikipedia:

" In snow leopards and lions, the mitochondrial genomes of both species was more similar to each other than to other Panthera species, indicating that at some point in their history, the female progeny of the male ancestors of modern snow leopards and female ancestors of modern lions interbred with male ancestors of modern snow leopards."

So a Snowion sounds like it is more naturally possible than a leopon! Yay!

Now, I suspect you might have three questions:

How would the two cats meet?
What would they look like?
How would the in-game mechanics work out?

Well!

1. How they'd meet.

I propose we have an encounter in the December event. December seems most probable, but February could also work. I chose December due to all the 'snuh' on the ground in the LD-verse.

event location aside, something draws the male leopard down to Africa. Maybe it was the 'snuh', or maybe it was all the love in the air that awakened those good ol' mitochondrial DNA ties.

I see this playing out similarly to the August event 'Maneater' studs. There would be a link on the main event page that led to his lair. Now, this fella is elusive, just like all his kin, so he may only show up a few times a week, or he might be there several times a day! Who knows?

When you do find him in his den, he might greet you and express his interest in your pride, especially your in-heat ladies. However, this fellow also wants to see that you are a wealthy lion, because apparently wealth is a big thing for his people. So, he will ask you for an expensive LD item OR a very large amount of event currency. I dunno which yet.

Anyways, once you give him the currency or item(s), he'll tell you to come back tomorrow. This time, he'll be waiting for you and you can easily find him after rollover. He'll ask you to do a hard NPC-related quest in order to show your courage (maybe battle some elephants). Once you complete that quest, he will again tell you to meet him tomorrow.

When you meet him this time, he tells you he is pleased with you and he would like to grant you one favor in return for aiding him in this foreign land. You can ask him for two things: to breed with ONE of your in-heat ladies, or to give you an artifact from his land.

If you ask for the artifact, you will receive a Jade Token. Keep this in mind.

If you ask for the breeding, he will seem affronted, but he will agree if you give him a large amount of event currency. Then, just like with the Maneaters, you choose your lady and hit submit. At rollover, you will receive a message telling whether or not the leopard got your lady pregnant. I say there's a 75% success rate for this. If he fails, he'll give you a Jade Token Half.

You ask him to make two Jade Token Halves into a Jade Token. (Jade Tokens would work like normal items and can be traded/sold/gifted).

So, what the heck are Jade Tokens? Well, I am thinking that out Leopard friend was accompanied by a handsome male buddy of his down here, but they split ways. You can meet him (in a RARE encounter) wandering through Lioden. If you have the whole Token, you will have two options: fight or give token. Fight is just an NPC fight. Give Token has two options: he will ignore you or follow you curiously. If he ignores you, sorry! If he follows, you can click 'view Snow Leopard' and it will take you to a page that looks like the Maneater stud profile. For a lesser amount of event currency than his buddy, you can stud him to one of your in-heat girls. Again, this has a 75% chance of success.

Now, your girl is pregnant. Yay! the cubs will have a small chance (bigger than leopon but still small) to be born a Snowion!

2. What will they look like.

WIP

3. In-game mechanics

Females would be fertile, and males would not be. In fact, I imagine these guys behaving almost identically to Leopons.

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Anyways, that's the Snowion! Hope you enjoyed and tolerated my walls of text! Feel free to post suggestions and why you may not support!

Suggestions:

By 13th nightmare: make it a variant of Leopon kind of like how the Primals work (I really like this idea). No event required for this

Felicity Smoake: lower the quest requirements (less items currency) or maybe have a special event currency that he takes as a fee. Limit to breeding 1 or 2 females to him per person per rollover.

Rita Bane: zoo escapee?

Criticisms (I will not respond if you mention these again):
~Size and anatomies are very different (It's the genes that matter. Look at our diverse dog mixes aka Husky and Scottie!)
~Remote range (They can still access each other as land goes between their ranges)



This suggestion has 1238 supports and 79 NO supports.



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Edited on 17/09/17 @ 14:23:30 by Scottie (Orca-child) (#87211)

Siderius (G1
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2017-08-24 19:58:56
I really want to see a sample of what a snowion will look like before I support. Intriguing idea, but I'm not totally convinced. I just feel like it is a little too.. unnatural I guess. I know tigers and lions wouldn't usually meet, but tigons are pretty common. Leopons exist too- the only thing that doesn't is a snowion. Besides that, the anatomy of a snow leopard and a lion are so different, I'd imagine it to be extremely difficult to find some way to create a hybrid out of them. Interesting concept, but I'm not sure whether it is realistic or not



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Scottie (Lights ON!) (#87211)

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2017-08-24 20:01:26
Thank you! As it was posted, they have more Mito. DNA similarities, so I think it could happen. Anatomy will be a barrier, you are right.

I will work on making some concept art, and if anyone here has design/looks ideas, feel free to post them here and I could use them! You will be rewarded for your efforts!



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Siderius (G1
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2017-08-24 20:03:28
Well I'll stick around and see how it goes. While I don't love the idea, I think it's very well put together! Best of luck xx



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Scottie (Lights ON!) (#87211)

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2017-08-24 20:03:46
Thanks again~



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Firefly (#26503)

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2017-08-24 20:06:03
Although it would likely be a solid year until they even announce a 3rd hybrid, I support this! The Snow Leopard is by far my favorite animal and I'd love to obtain a hybrid!
I'll always secretly wish for my non existing Cheetah/lion hybrid, but this would be cool.



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Anonymous (#44152)

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2017-08-24 20:10:22
Wouldn't this be a bit easier to do similar to the primals? But with leopon having a chance at a variant being a snow leopard hybird



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2017-08-24 20:20:04
I'm on the fence about this one. Don't get me wrong, I adore snow leopards and all their fluffy glory, but I am not sure on how they would get here?

December would be a likely candidate to introduce a snow leopard, though using an expensive item or a large sum of event currency seems a waste. I personally wouldn't be inclined to give up an expensive item or my event currency for a slim chance at a mutation, at least it depends on how much currency and how easy it is to get it.

It would be an interesting story idea. As you suggested, the SL could be attracted to the snow and upon meeting him would send you off on quest, and upon completion coild reward you with the hade tokens. These tokens could possibly work like dry bones and be used strictly for breeding attempts? Though if that were the case I would suggest having it down to a mimimum of 1-2 lions bred a day, to snuff out tons of reject cubs being born in hopes of this mutation.

Now as for the appearance...I imagine it looking like a stockier, fluffier version of the pons. It's body, namley the tail, would be much longer and it would have thicker fur than the lions. It would come with a special base and marking like the Pons do with kimanjano and mottled.

For now I'll refrain from supporting, I would like to see how this develops :)



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Scottie (Lights ON!) (#87211)

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2017-08-24 20:25:08
@13th, good idea! May I add that as a suggestion?

@Felicity, what if I A- lowered the quest requirements or B- made this fella more like the maneater studs, and had the explore encounter that gave Jade Tokens that could be used on the stud?

I created an art contest if anyone is interested



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RatProphet (G2 1k
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2017-08-24 20:32:52
I think that would be better, though I stick with having a limit of lionesses bred a day to prevent large amounts of reject cubs flooding in.




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Scottie (Lights ON!) (#87211)

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2017-08-24 20:33:26
Indeed. May I edit that into my ideas?



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RatProphet (G2 1k
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2017-08-24 20:34:56
Sure :)



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Doggy (#60955)

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2017-08-24 20:42:10
I like this idea, but I'm not into the whole 'make him an event stud' thing. It's more likely that if snowions do get implemented in the game that it would work like other hybrids and you'd breed them with breeding items and luck during any time of the year. I really don't see a whole storyline going to breeding a hybrid because that would make it a lot more complicated than breeding other hybrids and kinda throw off the balance. Great idea though!



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Anonymous (#44152)

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2017-08-24 21:01:01
Sure



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Scottie (Lights ON!) (#87211)

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2017-08-25 09:14:00
Thanks 13th and Felicity! I will add this thoughts in!

@Wolfie, I designed the event idea so that it might make sense for the snow leopards to be down in Africa. Would it make more sense to you if this hybrid was a variant of normal leopard, like how Primals work?



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2017-08-26 10:28:19
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