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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

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2017-09-16 03:36:15
I only have input for Madagascar...but from scrying stone results- SepiaxSunset creates Madagascar.



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2017-09-16 03:37:34
Oooh, thank you :O



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2017-09-16 03:39:00
No problem! <3 I found that out whilst scrying stoning potential results between a sepia and a sunset boy...man was I shocked!



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2017-09-16 03:41:24
If I weren't currently saving up, I'd spend quite a bit of SB seeing if the other possible combos are correct. But it gives me hope that it won't take too long before others stumble on them



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2017-09-16 03:45:18
I'm hoping I get results for citrine with my fellow- I need it XD

I'm thinking Champagne might be a strong candidate for it, going by genetics



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2017-09-16 03:46:59
Hmm, maybe Champagne and Fiery? Infernal, Nacarat...



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2017-09-16 03:47:41
Well Diego is Nacarat so I'm hoping so! XD

But Champagne is Golden Light Countershaded Special so...it seems quite fitting? o:



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2017-09-16 03:49:17
The only issue I see there are the "bubbles" - based on the theory that the important bit is how the base looks and not the genetics per se, Citrine doesn't seem to need them, it'd need something more like... faceted? Is that a thing? xD



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2017-09-16 03:53:55
Hmm...this is true...very true.

I think so?? XD But...maybe Nacarat could work...hmm...



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2017-09-16 04:01:42
So, based on the looks and how the Cairngorm was presented, we need something to add "orange + golden" and something to add the "whitish shine + golden", so one could add orange, another the white and one of the two added golden, too:

Current bases with orange:

  • Fiery

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Xanthic

  • Fulvous

  • Kimanjano



Current bases with white:


  • Goldenrod

  • Sunshine

  • Buttermilk

  • Buttercream

  • Ivory

  • Buff

  • Ashen

  • Opal



Bases that are halfway:


  • Nacarat

  • Sulphur

  • Topaz

  • Champagne



I wish Nacarat x Ivory were a thing :'D



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Edited on 16/09/17 @ 04:15:23 by Berenos (#84593)

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2017-09-16 04:05:07
Hmmm...I own a lotta natural bases so I'll be testing this out XD Using nacarat for one side since...nah to studding fees lmao

If you wanna test a couple, by all means let me know and I'll knock Diego's price down for you o: All in the name of science XD



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2017-09-16 04:17:03
Thank you, but my own king is Nacarat based :P

I wonder... could the same bases produce more than one combo base? There are only so many special bases, so either they'll repeat at some point, or special bases aren't so necessary... maybe one parent will need the special genetics? And that's without the other special circumstances mentioned in the news.



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2017-09-16 04:19:45
Fair enough XD It's rare I stud outside my own pride so I don't really look at many other kings :'D

Hmmm...possibly? o:



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2017-09-16 04:37:37
heyo! ivory x unholy = madagascar!
saw madagascar and just felt like they'd make it so tested an ivory and unholy in the scrying stone till i got one



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2017-09-16 04:38:12
Ooh, thank you! Guess that puts the Ivory being used for Citrine out.



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