Posted by [Mar] Getting Sick from Poacher Chase..

TeaLeo (#85636)

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2018-03-01 14:12:35
Lioden has updated Fire Escape to remove some of the parallax scrolling (huzzah!) so I'm sure they'll do it for March's Poacher Chase also when the time comes!

So this is about the 'Poacher Chase' and it's sister 'Fire Escape'.
I don't think this was really a problem with the 'Fire Escape' version (but since it's not available right now I can't really compare) but with the current 'Poacher Chase' game I, and a couple of friends, are experiencing headaches, nausea, and dizziness after finishing the game regardless of how long we're able to play it.

I think this is happening because the obstacles you have to jump over aren't incredibly noticeable. They blend into the background too much making the player strain their eyes while they play to be able to see the objects. I think a way to fix this is to either make the faint glow around each object more noticeable in color and maybe even a bit larger. Or to change the brightness or overall color of the object so it's not so tan/brown on a tan/brown background.

I think the reason this wasn't such a problem in the 'Fire Escape' game since, if I remember correctly xD, the background in that one was overall black/red with the objects being the tan/brown with a more noticeable glow.


After playing it again with all the suggestions in mind I've realized it's not really the lack of noticeability in the obstacles but rather the parallax of the game. The multiple elements of the foreground and background that move at different speeds are causing some people to experience headaches/vertigo/dizziness/sickness/etc after the 1k mark. Though none of the effects so far are long lasting they're still not great!

A possible way to fix this could be just to have a static image for both the foreground and background, so the only thing moving in the game would be the lion and the obstacles it jumps over. This wouldn't affect gameplay as things will still speed up as you progress and the jumping over obstacles mechanic won't change at all.

Another suggestion would be instead of having all parallaxing stop, have less! Such as maybe JUST ONE foreground, the area the lion runs on, and background element instead of the current 2 elements of foreground, the ground the lion runs on, and 4 elements in the background all moving at different speeds at the same time (I don't think those numbers are accurate but you get the point XD)

I know not everyone is experiencing these side-effects so I'm not suggesting to change the entire game this way, but instead have an option to toggle the parallax on or off before you start the game! And maybe have it remember your settings so if you die and want to restart you don't have to choose it every time.

Let me know what you guys think about this game and the suggestion of the change! I'd love to hear from both supporters and nonsupporters! <3



This suggestion has 305 supports and 10 NO supports.



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2018-03-01 14:15:07
i support it but i hvent gotten sick or felt unwell from it



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Burning Blackflag
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2018-03-01 14:15:41
Your so right, ugh as soon as I was in the 1000s, it was just a blur and I had to unfocus my eyes to actually tell when to jump, i got pretty dizzy afterwards



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Bezthiel πŸ‰ (#81210)

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2018-03-01 14:24:46
I don't usually play these types of games because they almost always end up making me motion sick, but I checked it out after this suggestion.

I got around 60 pts on my last attempt and that was all I could do, because my stomach started to churn. Yeah... something totally needs done to improve this.



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TeaLeo (#85636)

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2018-03-01 14:27:32
Yeah side scroll games usually don't affect me, like I don't recall having a bad time with fire escape, so I really do think it has something to do with the objects blending in too much ;u;
Like I noticed focusing on the lion, who stands out, doesn't make me sick or dizzy so it's not the scrolling it's self



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Bezthiel πŸ‰ (#81210)

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2018-03-01 14:28:34
I used to play Robot Unicorn Attack Evolution all the time, and my best score was around Rhino level. So when I say they make me motion sick, it's never this bad or this immediate.



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Thalath {Offline} (#41669)

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2018-03-01 14:30:15
I hadn't actually played the August one before and after reading this I decided to give this one a go

It seems that I'm not particularly sensitive to this kind of thing. It didn't make me sick, but my eyes felt all funky after

I think it has something with the way the parallax scrolling on the game is. It looks really good, but I can see where it would make people motion sick.

Honestly my biggest complaint is that the hitboxes on the things are kind of horseshit, most of the time it felt like my jump couldn't even cover them. The game actually gets easier after it speeds up, but it also causes more motion sickness/vertigo so that sucks :p

Anyway, I've supported -- maybe a mode can be implemented with less of a "scrolling" effect? It might look odd but at least it wouldn't make you feel sick



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Maiq the Hoarder (#92244)

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2018-03-01 14:33:35
I get motion sick pretty easily, but Poacher Chase hasn't bothered me yet.



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VY2 (#23908)

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2018-03-01 14:40:41
I actually had to take some aspirin cause the game strained my eyes too much. Maybe I'm just a super weenie haha but I do think some glow effect around jump obstacles would help!



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TeaLeo (#85636)

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2018-03-01 14:40:46
@Thalath: mannn the hitboxes and jumping lag is a whole other can of worms that I've been debating if I should make another thread for that or not @~@
But yeah the game definitely gets a lot easier once it speeds up but unfortunately, like Raggs pointed out, around the 1k mark is when I and a bunch of others start getting sick/uncomfortable

I really think it's just the lack of noticeability of the objects that are throwing things off, but I've also noticed that the objects "float" in one place rather than scrolling with the ground (the ground moves under the objects like a conveyor belt) but the beetles you collect scroll with the ground. It's almost like those two things should be swapped in behavior. Maybe it's possible that has something to do with the vertigo effect as well?



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Fading Angel (G2 2k)
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2018-03-01 15:03:59
Adding glow would help your eyes.... And it'll make more noticeable, which makes it easier to go farther... Farther, more RB.. It'll make RB wayyy to easy to get if the game was easy



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EntityofSilo | G4 (#107570)

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2018-03-01 15:06:06
I've noticed that it is incredibly difficult to see obstacles and beetles as well 0.0



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Dal (#127250)

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2018-03-01 15:20:40
I've played side scrollers since the 90s, I game every day on PC and consoles. I very rarely get sick. This gave me motion sickness for a couple of hours afterwards and my head is still in a funk. I noticed after I closed the window on my screen I had like... like it was still moving in parts lol I don't know how to explain.

It's very disheartening. The reason is because the background becomes a blur so it's motion blur which I ALWAYS turn off in games because it makes me barfy.



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Cheese (#3210)

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2018-03-01 15:29:49
I personally haven't had any trouble spotting the obstacles or beetles. For me, its the ground that makes my eyes hurt. It's super blurry where the lion is perfectly clear and causes my eyes to want to focus on the lion, but I have to look ahead and all I see is a blurry path that my eyes are trying to focus on to make it normal and they can't...then sudden still image appears and my eyes do wonky things.



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Maiq the Hoarder (#92244)

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2018-03-01 15:33:56
Here's something to consider- are you (generically you) playing on a large screen or a small one? I have a 27" monitor and zoomed in a little on Poacher Chase to reduce the wasted space on the sides of the screen while playing. Are the people getting sickness playing on small screens? Do you think this would have an impact?



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Dal (#127250)

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2018-03-01 15:39:19
Nope I am playing on a fairly large screen myself. There is a reason most games have an option to turn off motion blur because lots of people get sick from it.



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