Posted by -ADDED TO THE GAME-[ALL] Hire a Writer (please.) (+250)

Nyanunix (#11487)

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2018-04-14 15:38:17
Pretty simple suggestion. I've noticed, as a writer, that Lioden's events are . . . Badly written. Not to be rude to whoever's doing it, but I'm not wrong; as someone who writes professionally it hurts my heart.

Other sites have paid writers that do dialogue, wiki pages, everything. I know because that's what I do. It's not as expensive as one might think and a big site like LD could afford it.

I think that there needs to be someone hired to write storylines for the events.

If you support, great, if you don't, whatever.



This suggestion has 559 supports and 43 NO supports.



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Edited on 23/07/19 @ 19:11:00 by a Moderator

🅱️oneless (#123346)


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2018-04-24 09:25:08
Isn't that flavor text for a Graceful (Good) lioness, though?



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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)

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2018-04-24 09:28:29
It is, yes. It's why I assume the writer of it means "grace" and not "gracility", although the text itself would also make sense if "adding to" read "showcasing" or "showing off".

It's not uncommon to confuse the two words. They look incredibly similar and it trips up quite a few native English speakers. It's not terribly surprising that the mistake was made, but a professional wouldn't have made it (or at least would have gone through an edit or two first).



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🅱️oneless (#123346)


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2018-04-24 09:34:10
Hm, I getcha. I didn't know that that one was a word.

Anyway, yeah. Stuff like that needs fixing.



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Spectre [CLEAN
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2018-04-24 13:22:13
Things like hyena cubs being referred to as pups and groups of them as packs is also a thing that's bugged many users in the past. It's even been suggested multiple times before.

If I could I'd go and change things like that for the stay myself. I think there's a text regarding a snake or scorpion (can't remember) that refers to the animal as poisonous instead of venomous.



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🅱️oneless (#123346)


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2018-04-24 13:46:55
Would it be out of my place to just email Xylax and ask if I can be their editor for a price of 10 GB on my account per month? XD XD
I totally agree, @Lamm. Sorry to keep posting here, but I've just GOT to show my support for the things being said here. Everyone is SO right and makes such good points. Vote for a LioWriter!



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Nyanunix (#11487)

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2018-04-24 13:52:25
I think that if they're going to hire a writer they should do it like they do artists, where you apply and they look at what you've done, etc.

And editing is fine for a GB price but if I were writing a whole event I would want real money.



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🅱️oneless (#123346)


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2018-04-24 14:59:15
Yes, definitely. I keep bumping this thread because of how great of an idea it is and how much Lioden needs this.



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Razz {Side} (#36422)

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2018-04-29 18:46:22
I feel like there are a lot of inconsistencies that need to be fixed as well. For example, there's an "Orphaned Serval Cub", but also a "Melanistic Serval Kitten". If they're going to go with one, they need to be consistent about it!



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Chieftains (#37687)

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2018-04-30 06:57:14
I've been thinking about this recently too! Lioden leans heavily on writing as it does on its visual aspect. Someone (or preferably several people) coming up with fresh ideas and creating satisfying event storylines would be a definite improvement. And having hired writers look over ideas the admin team has/what the other writers have come up with and critiquing and improving upon those ideas would be nice in making sure an enjoyable event storyline is created.

So uh, support! Plus the explore blurbs, personality texts, and a ton of the written stuff on site could potentially take a load off on the admins with the introduction of writers.



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2018-04-30 07:45:26
So... I've been kind of following this thread while I thought of my own stance on this. While it'd be nice if they hired someone else to proof read things and work to flesh out storylines while others work on their respective areas, I don't agree with getting rid of anything that has been already done simply because it is not for the taste of everyone. A lot of thought and work has been poured in all the storylines we have already, and it seems really immature to me that the reason some players have given to have whole storylines erased is "because I don't like it". Some players like X storyline, others dislike it and like Y storyline better, and that is normal and really shouldn't be a reason to dismiss the effort made to bring any of them to life, so to speak.

What I agree with is that some some characters could use a bit more of depth so that they become their own "person" instead of being a stereotype or a cliché. I hope no one misunderstands what I write next, because it touches a sensitive subject and I only want to give some constructive criticism, but I really think no one should be defined by their gender or sexual orientation. I understand that the LGBT collective has been and is a target and I think it's great that they get so much positive attention here on LD, but the moment a character is defined only by their gender or orientation and offers nothing else of themselves they becomes a flat parody of a person that more often than not will only get a bad reception.



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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)

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2018-04-30 08:31:43
I get exactly what you mean- personally, I like that Nirah seems to be so gay he farts rainbows. But I really don't like that it's the only notable characteristic he has. I can't actually name a second thing about him off the top of my head.

It's why I advocate for a writer. Nirah(and Apollyon/Apedemak/Tefnut/Vashkartzen) is a great idea for a person! But... it's just an idea, so far. It's not a person yet. A professional could take those ideas and turn them into fully functional people.

Personally? I don't really want the content of any of the site touched. They're very good ideas to start with. It just needs the touch of a professional. Same reason why, if you have an idea you need drawn, you probably don't go ask a writer. It's not what they do.



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Razz {Side} (#36422)

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2018-04-30 08:44:23
The ideas behind the storylines don't need to be touched, but they need to be built upon. A writer would be able to manage incorporating the ideas currently in place, while also creating a much more engaging, understandable, and exciting storyline. It would be exceptionally beneficial to the site as a whole. New encounters etc could be added, a writer creating the blurb while Xylax or Deertush draws the art for it. The site staff have done very well thus far without a writer, but that doesn't change that they do need one. Xylax is overworked, and there are small things that need to be done that he doesn't do because he's so busy working on something that he doesn't do professionally- writing.

With a writer, maybe the markings and bases would actually be up to date on all lions and mutations rather than being incomplete and broken files.



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🅱️oneless (#123346)


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2018-05-01 19:56:39
I've just gotta bring this up -- even though I did another suggestion about it -- because it's relevant here.

It's my first May, and I have NO idea what is even going on with the events or how shit works. And I'm not the only one. The Main chat has been filled with questions from newer members all day. The May event is just not well-written, or even nearly fleshed-out enough.
And I have read up in the Wiki. It's not any better-written.



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Edited on 01/05/18 @ 20:01:51 by Asher (#123346)

Chieftains (#37687)

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2018-05-01 20:01:11
I'm not really seeing how that has anything to do with hiring a writer. To be fair, the beginning of all events come with many newer players being confused in main chat. And it always takes a couple of days for players to adjust and get the hang of events. Reading the event news post or the wiki usually clears things up.

But yeah, I'm not seeing what this has to do with hiring writers for storylines.



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Edited on 01/05/18 @ 20:05:51 by sleepy (#37687)

🅱️oneless (#123346)


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2018-05-01 20:02:52
Because the lacking explanations present aren't very coherently-written.



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