Posted by [Aug] Mysterious Stranger Encounter - 300+ Support

Panther_Spots (#6269)

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2018-08-10 23:10:05
So I've heard that the new super rare encounter with the Mysterious Stranger doesn't automatically drop the Solaris app and has a chance to drop Dry Bones...

This is simply unacceptable when Dry Bones are so common and easy to get, especially when the encounter itself has such a low drop rate. Please remove Dry Bones as a reward for the encounter so only the app reward is given.

Edit: According to Xylax's tumblr, the encounter also has the chance to drop a rare breeding item. So I'm editing this suggestion to remove the increased drop rate to just removing the db reward.

Edit 2: So the encounter, according to the wiki, gives up to 50DB, still not enough if you ask me but whatever. It also drops UAV and Human Liver. So there are several commonish rewards and 2 rare ones on a super rare encounter. At the moment, I've gone through maybe 11 energy bars and haven't encountered the mysterious stranger. The droprate seems to be as low as the Interstellar droprate and it needs to be increased if the chance of getting a common prize is higher than getting the app or the rare breeding item.

Edit 3: My hot take on this:

Remove Human Liver as a reward. Demand for it is basically non-existent. It sells for 400 SB currently if you even manage to sell it. And with three pages worth of it for sale, I don't view that as worthwhile.

Remove the Broken Drone as a reward. They give what? 20 XP and sell for like 150 SB? For a rare encounter, it's kinda weirdly placed.

Up the Dry Bones encounter to at least 100. It's a rare encounter. At least if you don't get the app or breeding item, you get *something* for finding it. 100 Dry Bones is half a Maneater stud fee, x2 Tracking Herds, x20 trains for your Adols in Vulture Chase, 1/3 of a GoP, and 1/6 of a Buff Balls.

Currently, the rewards basically give you a chance of being given junk. Not exactly making me excited to see what I get if I find the encounter.
-:[ʙᴇɴɴᴇᴛᴛ]:- (#112370)

Edit 4: Even though it's on the wiki, here's the rewards the encounter gives.
+20 Dry Bones
+UAV Search and Rescue
+40 Dry Bones
+50 Dry Bones
+Human Liver
+Solaris (app)
+Secret breeding item

Open to other people's suggestions, comment why you don't support. Though I don't see why anyone wouldn't support this.



This suggestion has 661 supports and 51 NO supports.



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Edited on 16/03/19 @ 03:27:44 by a Moderator

KalikaRoo31 (#89224)


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2018-08-12 22:03:22
It's only been two days and more then half the month left. Yeah I'm fine with it.



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Phantom StarsX (#92256)

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2018-08-12 22:04:29
We'll see how many even finds it. This is even more rare then the interstellar drop.
As I said there's people that have mentioned spending 15+ energy bars not even encountering the stranger- and even if you do encounter him there are 5 common drops he'll give you instead- various DB/drones, with rare being Solaris and extremely rare being the breeding item. There's people likely to not encounter him all month if his encounter by itself is as rare as interstellar- that would make the odds of getting the app.... extremely unlikely. But we'll see lol



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Edited on 12/08/18 @ 22:13:50 by Phantom StarsX (#92256)

KalikaRoo31 (#89224)


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2018-08-12 22:16:51
I didn't get the interstellar app and im fine if I don't get this one. The way I see it raffle only bases go to one maybe two people in moths of thrying. This will drop more. My odds are better. And even if I don't I'm fine with that. I can't have everything in the game.



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Panther_Spots (#6269)

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2018-08-12 22:16:57
We're going on day 2 and not a single Solaris app has been found.
The few people I've seen in chat have said they've gotten UAVs and Human Livers thus far, but no apps.

I've gone 11 full energy bars and haven't found the encounter once.



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Phantom StarsX (#92256)

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2018-08-12 22:20:33
The problem isn't some people won't get it- I'm honestly thinking less then 10 of these will be found and i try to be careful based on assumptions. Interstellar apps were found in the first few hours because it was an extremely rare drop but in a common encounter. This is gonna be an extremely rare drop in an extremely rare encounter. I don't care if I get the base but it's messed up knowing even if you meet the stranger it's basically gonna be useless.



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Mackenzie (Fuchsia
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2018-08-12 22:27:48
Full support. Maybe even make it a bit less rare; interstellar was found on the first day it was released. It's been days and it hasn't been found.



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🐀 Detective (#19808)

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2018-08-13 00:19:47
The fact you can get a goddamn UAV from such an extremely rare encounter is just insulting. 25EXP isn't even 1% on the EXP bar of most players.
I am a very active player and haven't gotten the encounter once.



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houndypauus (#148444)


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2018-08-13 00:40:22
MASSIVE support.

Look, lioden site owners... I get it. There's a very VERY simple reason for this. Interstellar likely made them money. An app worth 100-200gb is worth 50-100 usd. That's... A worthwhile amount, and most people would need to purchase GB in order to have it enough. I doubt it's ALL for the money, and I would never wanna insinuate that... I'm sure it was also to encourage people to be online more and exploring, and having a rare item to look for makes gameplay more fun sometimes!

But this? Is bullshit. It's utter bullshit. This is to the point that it's genuinely just upsetting. There's no challenge to finding it, it's a rare ass encounter that might not even give you anything worth anything. Granted, there was no challenge to finding Interstellar, but... Come on. This isn't fun. This isn't enjoyable for anyone. And it's just pissing the userbase off.

The encounter should give only the breeding item (which had better be a GMO cow), the app, and maybe db... If the drop is 300-500. As it stands, this is awful. The event is already quite bland and now it's just added stress to use every ounce of energy on an encounter that might do nothing.



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CALA (#105146)


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2018-08-13 00:56:29
No support; I'm sorry to say - and my reasoning is because I am actually glad that Lioden finally has something truly rare.

It doesn't matter how much GB you plug into this game, whether you spend every single real dollar (or virtual) that you have - at the end of the day, you have as much chance as everyone else of getting it. Which is a very slim chance. There is nothing you can do to make yourself get it more than anyone else - no matter how much you explore - because the amount you explore has nothing to do with it. It might increase your chance by proxy - but at the end of the day, you could be a new player taking their first 50 steps into explore and happen to be the lucky person to get it.

It is entirely random and it is non-discriminatory. This world drop doesn't care how rich or poor you are.

I for one am sick of the whole, " everyone gets it " thing - that defies the entire point of anything ever being rare or special or hard to get. No, we do not *need* to get it. If it was easy to get, then it wouldn't be so fucking cool and people wouldn't be complaining about wanting it.

I don't understand why we should all suddenly be entitled to it, or why it should be easier. Each person is entitled to their own point of view; I'm not going to belittle or argue with someone over their own opinion - but my own personal opinion is that the rare drops are fine just the way they are. If it gives you a "dud" consolation prize instead of the app, then too bad. That's what life is. Chance, luck and random possibility. Nothing is guaranteed in real life, you are not ensured what you want in life, and you don't always get what you want.

I hope we end up with eyes and manes that are just as rare - it actually gives something special to breed toward, instead of the same old 'supposedly rare' types that we have now, which everyone just achieves through mass breeding by throwing lots of money at it.

Finally - something money CAN'T buy.

(I'd also like to point out.. I put hours and hours into this game, at a minimum of ten hours per day; I pretty much live here; - and I also spend a ludicrous amount buying GB when I can; I've even tossed a few energy boosts/roasted lambs at this so far. I've not seen the encounter, and I sure don't care if I don't ever see it. I would love to; but if I don't.. I'll live with it, and move on. I might be able to breed Solaris later down the track, hopefully someone will eventually king one.)



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Edited on 13/08/18 @ 01:03:49 by CALA (#105146)

houndypauus (#148444)


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2018-08-13 01:10:50
No one insinuated everyone should get it... That would be dumb, you're right! It was never an "everyone gets it thing".

But it's to the point it isn't "cool". It's just. There. Solaris doesn't even seem as aesthetically interesting as interstellar, though that's just an opinion. (Though I think a valid one... It's a recolor base?)

Though what isn't an opinion is the last point. Money CAN buy it. It can buy energy boosts, it can buy Hyena Butter... And it can buy the app, for way more than it's worth, from whoever might happen to get it. It DOES increase the chances.

And in a year or two's time, IF anyone gets this, there will be enough solaris lions that this supposed "rarity" won't matter as much.

In my personal opinion? It's stupid that it's this rare. It's stupid that possibly 10 people on this site will have it by the end of the month. It's stupid to think that even if I, by some chance, see the stranger, I might get what equates to nothing.

Finding interstellar was cool. This is not.



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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2018-08-13 01:13:32
My hot take on this:

Remove Human Liver as a reward. Demand for it is basically non-existent. It sells for 400 SB currently if you even manage to sell it. And with three pages worth of it for sale, I don't view that as worthwhile.

Remove the Broken Drone as a reward. They give what? 20 XP and sell for like 150 SB? For a rare encounter, it's kinda weirdly placed.

Up the Dry Bones encounter to at least 100. It's a rare encounter. At least if you don't get the app or breeding item, you get *something* for finding it. 100 Dry Bones is half a Maneater stud fee, x2 Tracking Herds, x20 trains for your Adols in Vulture Chase, 1/3 of a GoP, and 1/6 of a Buff Balls.

Currently, the rewards basically give you a chance of being given junk. Not exactly making me excited to see what I get if I find the encounter.



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CALA (#105146)


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2018-08-13 01:18:04
But my point is that, exactly - no matter how many energy boosts you buy, no matter how much money you throw at it - you are NOT guaranteed to get the applicator.

The odds of using your money to buy energy roots and get Interstellar are higher chances, by far - therefore, it is definitely exploitable via the use of excessive energy items. While it isn't guaranteed, your chances are most definitely improved.

With Solaris - no amount of energy boosts or money will increase your odds; based simply on the fact that even if you use all your energy boosts to find the encounter, you are not guaranteed to receive the applicator from that encounter. Yeah, you might increase your chances of seeing the encounter - but since it is such a random chance of actually getting what you want from it, the likelihood of people shoveling all their money into exploring is highly reduced.

In other words - people will be more likely to invest money into energy items to get Interstellar, but they will be far less interested in throwing money into a random chance of finding Solaris.

Therefore, it is something that is finally not able to be bought by sheer GB mass alone (unless ofc you buy it from someone who has found it, but I'm speaking in terms of exploration so that isn't even part of it).



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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2018-08-13 01:18:43
CALA (#105146) :: In response to this, I just have this to say.

If the DB reward was still the most common of the two, the breeding item the uncommon and the Solaris App the rare, it would STILL make the Solaris App rare.

What this accomplishes is not giving you trash for managing to find the encounter.

I like this being rare. But I don't want a chance at having junk put in my damn inventory for the likely one time I'd ever find the encounter.

Removing the junk won't make it less rare if the actual drop for the App itself is already rare and one of three possibilities. S'just math.

If we were to say it was, for instance, a 1% chance of getting it, that's still a 1% chance no matter how you cut it and you're still more likely to get the other rewards. But the other rewards would still feel like "rewards" not, "hey take my trash out to the dumpster for me, will ya? Thanks, buddy."



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houndypauus (#148444)


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2018-08-13 01:20:14
thank you, Bennett! You're good at words, lol.

This at LEAST needs a change in the item drops.



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Panther_Spots (#6269)

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2018-08-13 01:23:26
Agreed with Bennet and adding Bennet's "hot take" to the top post.



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