Posted by Adult Fodder System - The Collector

jester [im autistic]
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2020-08-20 10:59:51

wow, another suggestion about fodder from me. who would have thought. since you're here, check out my gorilla enclave rework. it's pretty cool.

anyway, onto the suggestion.

THE COLLECTOR
"You have lions... yes? Lions you do not want, yes? I want them. I want your unwanted lions. I will provide them a home, food, and safety, and you will just give me the lions. Does this make sense to you, [NAME]?"
You nod.
"Good. That is very good, good for The Collector. Today, I want lions with [ATTRIBUTE]. No other shape. You understand. You must understand, yes?"
You nod. Again.
"Great! Great, good. Now go, go bring me a lion with [ATTRIBUTE]!"

That right there is the intro scene to the new NPC that is central to this suggestion, The Collector. The Collector is a mandrill with a strange fascination for lions, and he wants to build his very own pride. In order to do that, he is asking kings around the lands to part with lions they may not want. Every day, his preferred attribute changes. It can be anything from eye colors, to markings, to skin colors, or even base genetics! He, however, will never ask for common or custom level things, such as the non-exclusive markings you find on NCLs or can apply with oasis apps. List of things he can ask for in the spoiler.



In order to give players proper incentive to part with their beloved adult lions, he gives rewards. He gives Claw Sheaths, his very own currency that's unique to The Collector's Booth, where he sells wares he's found on his adventures, but he also gives the same rewards as the Gorilla.
As well, if you do enough consecutive quests, you may get an additional decor, only obtainable from The Collector! This chance would trigger every 30 days.

Now, what's in The Collector's Booth, you ask? He'll share a few items with the Gorilla Enclave, namely any items like Lion Meat, Yohimbe Barks, and the Referral Applicators. He'll also have his own set of unique marking applicators, but I've yet to decide what markings they would be. Perhaps colored Vitiligo markings to mirror the Gorilla Enclave's Feline apps? He could also take any 'retired' apps we may end up having, saying he found them on his journey. As well, much like his Gorilla Rival (the Gorilla does not agree that they are rivals, and instead just asks The Collector to please stay as far away from them as possible, restraining order pending), The Collector has his very own unique decor AND backgrounds. As for retired raffle backgrounds, I'd prefer if he received the next set of retired backgrounds, or maybe half of the current retired backgrounds in the Gorilla can be given to The Collector. Since he's called The Collector, his decors don't necessarily have to have a specific theme, as if he sees something shiny, he's likely going to take it back. He'll also have his own beetles, though I haven't decided what they'll be. Likely anything shiny.

Now, for the limits on The Collector. He will not accept heritageless lions, to keep people from accidentally foddering groupies or to keep people from trying to farm NCLs with what he wants. As mentioned earlier, he will only accept adult lions, those who are two or older, he may have an upper limit on the age, but it wouldn't be extraordinarily restrictive like the Gorilla Enclave. I'm currently thinking 2 years to 8 years. He also has difficulty tiers, similar to the gorilla, and even has a Difficulty+ where he will request any mutated lion.

As for all of this, I'm open to suggestions from you guys! An adult fodder system with rewards is a thing the community desperately needs, as we don't have enough lion sinks. This means prices for lions keep falling, and since lions are cheaper, so are the items we used to breed them. This sends the entire economy on a downward spiral, one that soon, won't be recoverable. I think a lion sink for adults is one of the first ways to handle this.

NEARLY 3 YEAR LATER EDIT:
The reason he's banned from asking for common and custom markings is because they're just not that popular. Tier 0 markings are basically only on NCLs, and very view people apply them to their kings. Tier 1 markings are the exact same story, for example, Noctis Cover has 8,500 lions with it as of this edit while Noctis Pelage has over 9,000 lions with it in a singular slot. I promise you guys I'm not excluding them because I hate app marks, but because by allowing The Collector to ask for them does nothing to help our current overpopulation problem because Tier 0 and Tier 1 marks are not the ones flooding the economy. This also goes for Mane Colors, as I'm sure you've all gotten a quest from the Gorilla for a cub with a Custom Mane only for no cubs with that mane on TC.




This suggestion has 392 supports and 15 NO supports.



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Edited on 01/06/23 @ 10:39:48 by jester (#187561)

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2020-08-20 11:11:02
This is a neat idea, however I don't like the idea of not allowing more common markings- Some players wouldnt have the funds or ability to breed or purchase lions of higher tiers to gain the special currency with quests. This would also reduce the number of nice chased lionesses out in explore (much like how the killing stone in July wiped chased and tree cubs off the face of the game for a while) and just boost more NCL lionesses being re-chased.

I feel like it would forcibly make something rarer and more expensive than it should be - not at a normal level, but at a significant rate over time, and it would defeat the purpose of chasing lionesses because profit would be a high option.

While I do support the idea, and we do need some sort of adult sink, I feel like forcing something to be rare when the game rng mechanics made it not be as rare as expected, then why do it artificially and make it even harder to achieve than it already is for players who aren't fully established?
I could just be understanding this wrong however.



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jester [im autistic]
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2020-08-20 12:11:24
While I do understand your viewpoint on that, most lions with 'higher tier' markings aren't that much more valuable than lions with common ones due to oversaturation. The only marking tier that is significantly more valuable is Tier 4, which is rosettes, and they're at most a couple hundred sb in the Trading Center.

I'm open to what The Collector can ask for being changed based on the current state of the market, though. For example, if Tier 2 marks suddenly become extremely high value, I'm 100% open to him no longer asking for those markings, and instead asking for Tier 0 or 1 in their place. I also think it would be better if the Gorilla did something similiar.

This isn't meant to force rarity, but it's also meant to help clean up the oversaturation that currently exists in the market, if that makes sense. Once the oversaturaion stops, The Collector's asking pool can change and can be moved to fit the current market.



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🌻 the serval
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2020-08-20 12:13:40
^ I think most if not all applicable Tier 3 markings are far more widespread and difficult to fodder through Gorilla than Tier 1. Compare marks such as Royal Back Hair and Fallow Shimmer to marks such as Sunset Siamese or Ice Crackle- TC yields far more results for the latter.



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Wolvesofthenight (#101070)

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2020-10-22 00:47:02
I don't care if they say it can't be done... I can't sell any of my lions anymore and I don't want to kill them... I mean I get sb and gb fine right now from hunting and stuff... my boys are all a joke because noone wants to buy... I used to be able to sell an ebony for 5 gb easy... now a combo base maker for males is selling for as low as 200 sb?! Like this is unacceptable! I mean cheaper is nice sure, but there's no more rarity in bases when the economy tanks because of the massive influx of users and lions! I have 40 lionesses that I won't chase... I have 2 slots for ncls... I have a bunch that I want to sell because they have low ferts, they have a nurturing disposition, or I love them but I don't need them taking up my space anymore! I honestly think if they don't do this they should make the gorilla enclave have a second quest for adults but instead giving monkey teeth it gives sb! With a chance of gb after 30 days... that way its simpler in coding and they don't have to add a piece of art work and reshuffle the whole board... jester great idea! What I just said would make it a bit more simpler though?!



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di (#126735)

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2021-03-27 09:07:41
Post above me:

It's been said time and time again, staff will not and probably never will, make GB obtainable by any means other than people buying them with real money (and thus supporting the site and keeping it up and running). If you can't buy them with real money, you can use your SB to buy them from other players. I really hate the idea of getting GB for free. It's premium currency for a reason: the site needs people to pay for it, to keep itself going.

As for the main idea of the post... I'm on the fence. It seems like the restrictions are a little much? Why wouldn't we be able to trade in an NCL we claim in explore, if said NCL fits the criteria? Why does it have to be only lions that are bred?

Not sure if I support yet or not. :/ I feel like we wouldn't have this issue with over saturation of lions/cubs if people would just kill them off or send them to the nature reserve. It's only 5 energy, not that big a deal.



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Cryptid✧G1 Ukame
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2021-03-28 22:11:37
I support but not sure if I like the Groupies and NCLs restrictions. He already have time limit like Gorilla Enclave yeah? So it’s not like what we spam him NCLs. I am not a coder but can imagine it’ll be more work than worth when it comes to coding heritage filter. Even trading center and lion search doesn’t have it yet so I am gonna blindly guess it’s hard. Plus ‘story’ wise, it seems like Collector is judging ladies by their heritage like some rich asshole. “Mm yes I dunno your family so I will not take you in” XD

Secondly on the subject of loosing lions to the Collector fodder and etc: JUST PROTECT YOUR LIONS👏👏

Lastly age restriction could be even more loose based on the difficulty level?
Easy 2-12
Medium 2-10
Hard 2-8
Very hard 2-6



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2021-04-01 08:10:35
I'm for this but i'd agree with a few points here esp Jesters comment version. I for sure support that.
tbh i hate having to find cubs that fit x x and x standards and only want lower cub population in a rewarding way. so this applies to adult lions as well ^ ^

lions won't sell, but you want something for them esp since you yourself can't bear to kill/reserve them for a reason. People form attachments in a way, that's normal (and annoying at times cuz darn it they're pixels yet you can't help but love them in some way XD)



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Edited on 01/04/21 @ 08:11:35 by FNaF Foxy {Clean Main} (#56607)

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2023-05-24 03:34:04
I personally think it’s a great idea, the idea of this is to get rid of lions filling tcs or fodders, meaning we can get rid of most lions in the market helping the market in SOME way. I think there should be a time limit similar to gorilla and I agree with ncls being kept out of this, ncls aren’t the problem in TC other lions are. I think as a add-on no one NEEDS to use this feature but it’s there and with rewards is likely to be used. I also think that muties shouldn’t be such a rare encounter with the collector, maybe a option to skip a mutie one but have it available. As I know I would love to get rid of these low tier muts. Meaning I think this should exclude stimus, ferus, felis, hybrids, dus etc. i feel this should be directed to those muts that cost 100sb or a bit more. Definitely a great idea. As this isn’t a add-on for something to do it’s generally something that will help this mess of a economy that NO ONE is enjoying. having different tier marks means you could possibly stud out lions for the mark, or search tc high and low. Maybe it would work best with the quest being available for 3 days? Or until you finish it. Or you can do something similar with the snake with a item that can skip the quest. With limit of course. Either way there can be a lot of improvements but it’s already a great idea and will help this market significantly, support from me



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\ Nebula // (#434371)

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2023-05-26 08:11:42
this seems amazing :0
i do think common and custom should be allowed though, I don't think it should be completely based on only decent lions



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2023-06-01 10:25:26
bumping.



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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2023-06-12 02:07:42
bumping and supporting. economy is in shambles and nothing is worth much anymore if it aint a hybrid, stupid rare base, multi rosette, obscene statter or a DU. im tired. all our work is a joke.



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Aura/Samuel (#208852)

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2023-06-12 21:45:17
might be older but i kinda like it. support



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2023-06-17 06:09:06
Support! This would be so useful for all the NCLs that everyone just keeps getting and getting, or real bad fodder none of us need! I hope this will be added to the game <3



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2023-06-18 08:23:19
I don't mind making this by myself as like a real forum post thing though. XDDD



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2023-06-19 05:42:18
Backing this with my LIFE
This needs to be implemented WHY ISN'T MY G4 2X ROSTTEE UNABLE TO SELL? I hate it and wanna go back to normal and its not even like I'm a og player from 5 years ago, I joined 2021-06-17, I had my anniversary two days ago and the market was no where as bad as it is now ;-;
Is it not frustrating to breed for the best markings/stats/etc and get nothing in return? well basically nothing.
ALSO I don't think ncls should be allowed to get "collected" because that defeats the purpose :/ there isn't a influx of chased lions in market that are causing my lions not to sell.
(Sorry if this wasn't coherent I will be glad to edit later in the day, I haven't gotten any sleep)



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