Posted by [Nov] Shaman Quests: An Exercise in RNG Futility

[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2020-11-02 01:09:08
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✪ Summary:

Shaman Piety is an extremely limited currency. Unlike almost every other quest in every Lioden event - potentially *every* other quest - Shaman Quests cannot be properly skipped without detriment to the player. Other quests allow you to skip a quest if it proves too hard. You pay an event beetle fee or SB to be given a new, random quest and you move on with life.

Not so with Shamans. If you skip a quest, you permanently lose a quest for the day. And if you get multiple quests you can't complete, well you're out of luck.

With the sheer amount of new encounters being added to the game constantly - both event and normal encounters - it continuously weighs the RNG odds of getting the correct encounter AGAINST the player. There is also a very incredibly obvious mechanic in place that makes certain encounters - if not all - harder to find if the quest seeking it is active.

After 6 or 7 energy bars, you should have found your quest encounter by now, but that's not the case. But after skipping the quest, miraculously, what you were looking for shows up.

Frankly, this is getting absurd.

✪ What I Am Proposing:

[+] Add a Scarab Beetle 're-roll quest' option instead of a total skip.
[+] DO NOT give players the same quest they just skipped.

I'm suggesting this amount be 10 Scarab Beetles. This month gives low currency drops and if you repeatedly get a quest you can't do, it'll be pricy, but at least you won't be locked out of quests entirely because it continues to ask you to look for that dumb cow or those humans you haven't seen even once since the event started.

You get 2-3 Piety per quest, and the big ticket Piety rewards for many players are Ancestral Markings. It takes thirty (30) to apply a single marking. That's 5-ish days worth of work assuming you can even complete every quest. If you can only complete 2, it stretches into 10 days.



Edit Log:
[ ADDED] 11/23/2020: DO NOT give players the same quest they just skipped.
Since there is an issue with multiple quests through the game already doing this, I'm politely requesting that if this change is implemented, it doesn't give players the same quest they skipped.

[UPDATE] 11/19/2022: LioDevs have added the following encounter as of November 2022:

However, despite it being added, some have reported rarely finding this encounter. It may not be sufficient.

Quote: "Huge support. I know they implemented the Ahihia encounter BUT I never encountered her even once in the entirety of November. At all. And I am a hardcore player, I roll every day and play for hours. So either the chance of getting the encounter is so low that it’s not even useful, or they messed up and didn’t implement it right. Either way, there DEFINITELY needs to be options for those quests bc it there were days in November where I went 12 hours of constant exploring and never got the one I needed" -via Chow.Hound (#162617)

I myself only encountered her once.
If you don't support, I'd like to know why. I appreciate constructive criticism over a simple "no".



This suggestion has 562 supports and 5 NO supports.



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Edited on 06/12/22 @ 18:29:25 by [△] Nadir (#108458)

kwitter (#194232)

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Posted on
2020-11-17 14:06:53
YES, a storyline would make this SO much better! something, anything would make this more interesting instead of just slaving away for beetles and doing quests for the shamans that take ABSOLUTELY FOREVER to do

the only decors i care about are the cards and the body paint, but thats about it



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2020-11-23 11:22:22
While I do agree a storyline would be neat and make the month less monotonous, this suggestion in particular is for fixing the way quests re-roll for shamans, so players don't lose out on piety.

Let's just try to keep this on track, please. :')



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♥Amour (#29190)

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Posted on
2020-11-23 11:24:15
I completely support! I was considering making a suggestion of my own regarding getting rid of the obviously existing mechanic that keeps you from finding what is usually common encounters. But this would be a good compromise. I’d still like to see that mechanic deleted, seems some of us CANT be on ALL DAY looking for one encounter that is usually in abundance. This suggestion would make it at least a bit easier on those who actually have a life.



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2020-11-23 11:29:50
I absolutely agree, Amour. It keeps being said there's no such mechanic and being blamed on 'bad RNG', but multiple players have very clearly reported its existence. That's a pattern, not a coincidence.

I'm NOT asking for the 'chance lowering mechanic' to be removed either. Since we've already been told it doesn't exist when it clearly does, I'm specifically seeking a change to the way quests roll to guarantee we see an actual change placed in game.

I'd be more than happy to check 10 beetles to re-roll a quest. Let the mechanic stay in place.



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2020-11-23 11:32:09
[ ADDED] 11/23/2020: DO NOT give players the same quest they just skipped.
Since there is an issue with multiple quests through the game already doing this, I'm politely requesting that if this change is implemented, it doesn't give players the same quest they skipped.



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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Posted on
2021-10-01 23:33:59
November and Shaman Quests are next month. Can we get this suggestion bumping regularly again?



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Mother Rat [G2 Fiery
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Posted on
2021-10-03 14:35:13
please - full support.



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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Posted on
2021-11-01 16:08:03
Hello, Lioden. It is one full year since this suggestion was posted, and it is time to suffer again. Good luck to you all, and I hope you never have to press it.

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Two whole energy bars and things are already looking bleak. Let's hope we get an answer on the 12th.



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Arkarvia (#239152)

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Posted on
2021-11-01 17:17:53
Idk if it has been fixed now, but I have been struggling a lot. A whole days worth of energy bars wasted for not a single bit of piety ;w;
And I had also tried to skip, but now I can’t find that stinking shrine anywhere!
As I have said, I don’t know if it has been fixed, because I have only been here, for like, what, 3 months? So it might be my skills or the game mechanics, but whatever it is, I hope it can be tweaked a bit.
I wish luck to everyone else in this event!



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🐀hyde
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Posted on
2021-11-01 17:52:05
PLEASE!!!! its only day 1 and im already losing steam and motivation.. ive used my hyper bonus, and 5 full bars trying to fiind the transvaal lion, when yesterday before ro i had 3 back to back encounters with him. idk why rng is so stuffed for this event vs others but not having the option to reroll for a new quest is incredibly frustrating and takes away any feeling of reward once youve wasted all your energy and skipped battle encounters that couldve been getting you scarabs for the sake of finishing your quest.



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Edited on 01/11/21 @ 17:54:33 by 🐀hyde {G2FissDemi2xRose} (#232681)

Arkarvia (#239152)

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Posted on
2021-11-01 18:34:37
Same lol I don’t think I’ll get anything from this event if I keep on losing these quests, it only seems I am wasting energy at this point XD



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Graveycat (#227017)

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Posted on
2021-11-01 19:19:50
omg yes please!! there's so many encounters it can really mess me up just trying for *one* shaman at a time. If I could like, take all three at once, (Even two) or re-roll even if it's just once. That'd be nice!



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Trollsy[PFM] side (#126953)

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Posted on
2021-11-02 03:20:30
This event's RNG-based quests are just awful. There are tons of ecounters and each year there are even more. And I never seem to get the right ecounter when I'm looking for it on the quest and at this time I'm just wasting energy bars for nothing. It's really tedious, frustrating and time-wasting! I feel like in every month the mods are doing everything to make the event activities more tedious and off-putting. Can we at least have a snake-scent-ish booster or something?



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Edited on 02/11/21 @ 03:20:40 by Trollsy[PFM] 2G Blazing GSR (#126953)

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Birds|Dawn Dros| (#118875)

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Posted on
2021-11-02 14:34:13
I literally had to dig through the suggestions section because I am already TIRED of using a whole day’s worth of energy on an encounter I can’t even get. And for a crumb of a reward, too… It would be wonderful to skip quests without losing out on opportunity!



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mousecouch🕷️ (#21960)

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Posted on
2021-11-02 14:39:22
wasted 2 bars this morning looking for an encounter- support!



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