Posted by [Jan] Option to Switch Between SB/LB *Edited*

babycakes21 - hiatus (#215205)

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2020-11-30 10:49:13
Changing this to being able to switch from SB/CB for the January shop, so the stuff below just applies to why it would be good to have a CB option along with the SB one, maybe a toggle button on the shop page to switch between SB/CB, although the conversion rate would have to be figured out

Edit No. 2: I'm an actual idiot, I've been calling Leather Beetles CB, although I know they aren't Carrion Beetles lmao. I'm too lazy to go fix that, so if you're wondering why tf I keep on saying "CB", I mean LB

I was obsessively scrolling through the event details and the event shop pages on the Wiki, when I realized that for the January event, Great Hunger (the storyline is Lone Wanderer), and all of the items in the Carrion Shop cost SB rather than CB, the January event currency. The shop where you can use CB is the Boneyard, which from what I can see from the Wiki (as I've never participated in the event before) isn't even an actual permanent shop like the rest of them are, plus I feel like all of the "good" items are in the Carrion Shop... If I'm wrong about any of this, just let me know! I joined a couple months ago, so haven't done all the events yet.

As I was saying, none of the other events have items that cost SB/GB (with the exception of a few things such as halloween bundles or celestial decors), let alone entire SHOPS, and I think that none of them should. Events are fun for everyone, partly because if the fact that no matter what you have in-game, everyone can get the same amount of event currency, although some a little more that others with energy boosts, etc. With SB on the other hand, it can be hard and nearly impossible for players who don't have much to enjoy the event and the items in the shop, since it's so much harder to get SB, especially because you'd have to sell/trade something to get it, unlike the event currency which you find simply by exploring/battling/player interactions.

Long story short, make the January event shops purely event currency, no SB items!!! Isn't the whole point of an event to be fun for everyone? Either convert everything to CB prices, or make another currency, something like Rotten Beetles/RtB or whatever (open to suggestions!). All I'm asking is to make the event fair, so that all players, especially new or people who can't buy GB with IRL money, have an even chance to get the same amount of event currency, and to keep it fun for everyone!

*NEW: There should be an option to switch because while a lot of people seem to agree with changing it to CB, there are still people who want to keep it as it is, and honestly, I agree that SB is easier to get haha, BUT an option for those who want CB prices should definitely be available to them!

Suggestions:
1. Fern [main] (#158699) Have a compromise, either a way to switch the currency options (SB to CB) or a way to trade/buy CB with SB/GB

Let me know what you think, and if I should make any changes! All feedback is appreciated, and if you are thinking "No support"? Tell me why, I'd honestly love to know what y'all think! And if you do support (yay<3) then I'd love to know that as well.



This suggestion has 32 supports and 17 NO supports.



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Edited on 22/01/21 @ 14:06:03 by Lotus|G2 3xRos Maat DF (#215536)

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2020-11-30 11:23:28
I totally agree with this! I do think though that it should expand to all events- not just the one using carrion beetles- like halloween bundles during the October Event. Maybe instead of buying the titles for events/halloween bundles/markings etc. with SB, there could be an option to do quests to earn them as well as paying for the SB option?

Some events that you can spend SB/GB on off the top of my head are:
Oct
Feb
Jan

It's not just January:/



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Edited on 30/11/20 @ 11:25:04 by Polaroid (#163486)

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2020-11-30 11:29:52
Oh wait really? I did NOT know that lmao. And the titles I kinda understand, plus since the halloween bundles have exclusive stuff so I get that, but I'll go check and update this

Oop yeah, just checked the Wiki, and although there's additional stuff for SB, I'm mostly talking about the event SHOPS themselves, since I do understand having some smaller things for SB

and the july event has the celestial animal thingies for SB, kinda random, i think I'll add that to the suggestion, although im not sure about the rugged apps...



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Edited on 30/11/20 @ 11:38:56 by babycakes21 (#215205)

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2020-11-30 14:18:10
non-support, it's difficult enough imo to obtain cb if you don't grind a lot, while it is very easy to gain sb, meaning it would only make it more difficult instead of easier.



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2020-11-30 14:22:47
Thanks for the feedback! I do agree that I can be easier to get SB rather than event currency, IF you have things to sell. The point is, even people who don't have anything to sell, especially newbies, still get a chance, and getting event currency isn't supposed to be super easy anyways. Plus the SB prices are *way* higher than that CB ones, so that's another thing to think about imo



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2020-11-30 21:22:16
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Edited on 05/03/21 @ 15:09:28 by Fern [main] (#158699)

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2020-11-30 21:30:34
I agree! Getting SB isn't a problem for a lot of people, but for the ones who CAN'T, like if they are new or are struggling to feed their pride, then it kinda screws up the fun for them. I understand and respect your decision to stay undecided, or even if you don't support, but think about it if you didn't have a way to get SB. I will most likely be selling to Monkey Business and stuff, as well as saving as much as I can, which honestly won't be much, but even then, I can only buy a couple expensive things, while others might not be able to buy any of them, which seems extremely unfair to me. We already have places for SB only, or GB, and I feel like it's defeating the purpose of the event. Just my opinion though, and whatever yours is, I acknowledge and respect that.

*and the extra stuff like titles I understand having an SB price, as it isn't an item, and this is just about the items themselves other than a few exclusive ones which are also understandable



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Edited on 30/11/20 @ 21:32:14 by babycakes21 (#215205)

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2020-11-30 21:35:28
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Edited on 05/03/21 @ 15:09:39 by Fern [main] (#158699)

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2020-11-30 21:43:10
Hmm... That's a really good idea! I'll add that, and thank you so much for the support! I do get why some people want to keep it as it is though, but I'm *assuming* that they have the SB to buy things, and this is for the people who DON'T, since you can literally just buy the things with SB/GB if you wanted to, it just doesn't go the other way around



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2020-12-30 02:06:03
While I do think that adjustments could be made to make it slightly less sb-reliant, I do think that having sb be used to purchase event items is good. It is relatively easy to make sb during the January event since you reach a point where you don’t have to use your own food for your pride, so you can sell all your carcasses. Spending sb on event stuff ensures that it doesn’t become too unbalanced.

I do think that maybe lowering the prices would help? Or, as some people seem to have suggested, allowing players to exchange sb for event currency.



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2021-01-01 02:50:22
ive played here before, this is just a newer account. it is definitely a challenge for younger/newer accounts to stockpile sb for the items they want, especially considering the 5000 sb cap in explore. but i think the first thing to look at is how easy IS it to earn sb, vs earning the event currency. if youre hunting a full party of lions and using all 10 hunts, selling the extra, etc etc, how much sb do you earn vs event currency by exploring whenever you can remember? i dont have a hunting party so i cant test it out myself, but IF the rates of currency brought in about match the time and effort needed and compared against the actual cost/value of the items, then it might even itself out

idk, i might be wrong! not everyone does have the time to send out a bunch of hunts a day and maximize profits, but then it is really easy to make gb and then convert that to sb

havent voted on support or not yet, but if it turns out that the effort needed for sb outweighs the effort needed for event currency, then i do support



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2021-01-01 02:56:11
I def agree! It is easy for people who have been playing hot longer to get the needed SB, but tbh this is mostly to make it fair for the newer players who CANT get the SB. Maybe they can’t get enough food to feed their pride, let alone sell any! Maybe they can! Either way, the thing that I really liked was the idea to be able to switch between SB or event currency, as a compromise, although it might just complicate things.

Still waiting to see how the event turns out, since this is actually my guest January here, so might edit this as the event progresses!



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💜 Ninque (#106221)

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2021-01-01 07:12:47
No support. It's MUCH easier to earn SB on daily basis rather than event currency. We all were newbies at some point, we can talk from our own experience - if you put at least a tiny effort into fodder lions, exploring, hunting and minigames, you can get AT LEAST 1 GB DAILY.

Older players have access to energy boosts, meat pies, roasted lambs, red bulls, various small energy items and GB to purchase event currency from other players. Do you also think that's unfair and everyone should "have an equal chance"?



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2021-01-02 23:15:38
True, this is the other side of it, although if people don’t spend quite a bit of time trying to sell things, then it’s really hard to have more than a couple hundred SB at a time, especially since newbies might not know how much things cost, how to price them, etc. One thing I actually didn’t know about was the whole Foodpit thing, so yes, you can now sell all the food/carcasses you get, although we have to donate quite a bit to open it in the first place, but for the players who aren’t on enough to send more than a couple hunts out a day won’t be able to get much income from that

I know that I did NOT get 1gb or the SB equivalent when I was new, and even now probably don’t. All the GB i have is probably just from selling event items, whether it’s apps and breeding items later on in he year or just selling event currency during that month. Maybe I could be getting more, but I’m not. And although the older players/players who can buy GB with irl money have an advantage, I didn’t say it should be “equal”, just fairER, meaning hat the newbies should be able to buy some of the things that they want, rather than only a couple decors. Maybe they still can’t get everything, but hopefully they can get at least some/most of it. And if people buy event currency, the people they are buying from are getting something in return so I don’t see how that would be unfair

Although I’m not really a newbie anymore, it’s still a struggle to get SB, especially if I stud to other lions, or have to do the small things like revealing markings, AMP checking, and other things. They do add up, and although maybe most people don’t have to do that, it’s difficult for the people who do, including those, mostly newbies who can’t get SB from studdings

I do understand what you are saying though, and why you want it to stay the same, and since a couple days of the event has passed I agree that it is difficult to get Jan currency so might edit this to being able to switch between event currency/SB for the January shop, but will wait a little more

Whoops didn’t realize how long this was



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Edited on 02/01/21 @ 23:17:20 by babycakes21 (#215205)

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2021-01-10 19:45:17

I'm going to say no support? It's much easier for me to get SB, personally, and after having to work my ass off in December for currency.. I like the break I get during January.

I sympathies with new players, I really do. In my opinion though, you're actually able to make SB quite easily during this month. Giant tortoises are available through the Boneyard for event currency, and you can easily sell them on the forums to other plays for SB. That was actually how I first starting making GB years back! They only go for about 800/900SB per right now, but still, that's a good chunk of beetles.




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Edited on 10/01/21 @ 19:49:48 by #1 Clown (#76335)

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2021-01-10 20:21:11
Yeah, I'm actually changing this to having the option to switch between currencies, since after participating in the event I gotta agree the CB is pretty hard to get. Even then, a lot of players, new/returning or just regular players can't sell things, either they don't know how to price things, are unable to sell them, or maybe don't have anything to sell



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