-LOCKED - Community Update #113!
Posted on 2021-07-09 14:16:12

Community Update
As we mentioned before, aside from event news and the 2nd Friday of the month being focused on coding/art updates all at once, all other Fridays are centered around the community!


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Official Lioden Raffle


LINK - This is our official community update raffle. Everyone gets a chance to win a rare prize, plus something extra for any runner ups. These raffles have a very minimal ticket price, and there is a limit of 1 ticket per account to make it fair! Good luck!
This raffle will automatically end on 2021-07-16 00:00:00.


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Art and Coding Bug Fixes


* Decors on Dorsal Fur pride leader portraits should no longer be flipped
* Fixed a duplicate of "Celadon" that replaced "Tessera" genetics, and thus prohibited any "Dunt" eyes to appear
* Lion Pride Veiled Wraps [Light Blue and Pink] should now display on all lions
* Previously, the Item Catalogue would not search all locations that an item was available in, this has been fixed
* Searching for main males wouldn't sort by level properly, this has been fixed


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Regarding the July Event


Hello, Lioden!

We're just writing this to extend a hand from the devs to the players, and touch base with you all on some of the feedback and comments we've been receiving over the past couple of days.

Retiring the Event


As we mentioned in previous news posts (July 2020, June 2021, and July 2021), the original July event would be retiring this year. We know that July was a very content rich event with lots of things to do. We know that the theme overall is popular, too. We know that by comparison, what launched this month seems less than and that can be a shock. However, all of our events started off launching on a smaller scale and grew over time. This time is no different, but we understand it can be disappointing now that the majority of events have had several years of fleshing out. We really hope you'll be patient with us and be excited to watch it grow.

Because of several years of content additions, in the end the event became messy and disjointed, and we felt it required a complete overhaul. Additionally, we know that the storyline left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths, and as explained, we felt it best to leave these characters behind and move on with new characters. We know that originally it was planned for Tefnut to have a mini backstory, but over time we as devs felt the storyline needed to be put to rest, and so that didn't happen.

We were surprised to see players upset about the removal of the storyline when we had explained it would be retiring, and so few players voiced their upset at this before.

Launching the New Event


Tefnut's memories, in hindsight, shouldn't have launched until the 8th and we apologise for that. Gathering MS which could then be spent there sent the wrong message when the new explore requires the shards to have steps. The apps originally launched in SB prices. After concern started being voiced by players about how cheap they were and the risk it would ruin the market, the prices got upped. This then caused more upset with other players, and the prices were changed to MS. This, then, caused upset again, and it became obvious that all of these choices were wrong. We then moved to remove the apps entirely from the shop and are still considering what to do, but we can promise that the apps will not return for a MS price, and more likely to be reverted to either SB, AC, or the option for both.

The new MS output is intentional because the event has changed. However, we listened to you all and gave an increase so you'd be able to get more steps in celestial explore.

Back to the celestial explore. We've seen comments voiced that it's too similar to the lunar event on Wolvden and that's upsetting, but we think considering it's an explore system, it is impossible not to see similarities between our other games and events. We will however consider the feedback for this, and look to see if we can do anything about this.

With regards to the enemies - they have more 'special' components than regular enemies, such as some of them having soft skin, some having tough, some being biters or stranglers, etc etc, but their overall 'power' is still lower than most enemies. In fact, it's lower than fighting regular lions in explore, though it likely feels different because they have more components and you have to work out what their strengths and weaknesses are. Additionally, we actually lowered this again after your feedback. Success rates were pretty good in testing as well, even with low stat kings.

To Sum Up


We hope you guys will agree that whilst we might not get everything right to begin with, we have a good track record of doing what we can to make it right. Any time event tiers have been too high or seeming unfair, we have moved to change them or lower them for better balance. We don't do things just to upset players - what would the point of that be? We're trying our best, and sometimes we don't always get it right first time, but we endeavour to make sure we do what we can to *put* it right.

We'd just like to formally apologise for all the ups and downs over the past few days. There have been a lot of quick fire changes. A lot of upset forum posts, news comments and chat posts. We don't anticipate to make any further changes this year beyond one or two more tweaks and hope that things will settle, but we're taking everything on board for next year.

Thank you for your patience, and we appreciate the valuable feedback you have given.

* We have adjusted "empty" explore encounters in Celestial Explore to now reward between 5-10 Meteorite Shards or 1 Axion Core at random.

Feedback and Surveys


In light of recent events, we have chosen to be more strict in our enforcement of attacks on our staff team. The attacks on our staff team and comments directed at them have been unacceptable, cruel, and without constructive criticism. These attacks not only harm our staff team, but our players as well—we have received feedback that players have been afraid to give their opinions in the chat room and on the forums due to the fear of being turned on by their fellow players with these same attacks. Due in part to this, we have found it necessary to follow with the enforcement of limiting attacks on our staff team. These are not new rules, these are existing rules that are currently enforced within the Code of Conduct.

To offset this, we will also be introducing greater chances of feedback so that every voice can be heard. Today, we are introducing a new way for you to give us your feedback - anonymous surveys. These surveys are here to provide an equal opportunity for players to provide feedback, and allow all voices a chance to contribute to the game's growth. They will offer a safe way for everyone to be heard, and will be everyone's first and best place to supply their thoughts in a constructive way without fear of being criticised.

We have created a survey to receive feedback from everyone regarding July's event update, and the link can be found here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeL-aPtccdpLklsQ0C-V2oHbcBUrhy5spza1CT_Ga65Aarvmw/viewform


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Raffle Lioness


Congrats Karina (#212267)! You have won last week's Ebony lady, woo!
A new Madagascar lady with Clay Indri (NEW!), Vitiligo 8, and the thirteenth Shores of Burundi background is up for impressing in the Special Lioness area linked here!

Marking Note: Lilac Crackle, Noctis Indri, and Noctis Panther are now possible to apply via RMAs/Total Shuffle!

Poll Results - Thanks for your votes! August's new stud base will be named "Bandit".

There is no new poll this week, in light of the survey. We'd like the focus to be on the survey if possible.


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Next Development Update: August 13th!


No Friday goofy doodle comic this week, sorry!



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Moony the 2nd-G2
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Posted on
2021-07-09 17:35:35
So you just want stuff handed to you. Okay. Have a good day!

@Also Perseflora



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Edited on 09/07/21 @ 17:36:13 by Moony the 2nd (Ebony Breeder) (#108860)

Katze (#3)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 17:50:44
It's really important that we all remember to remain respectful and avoid derailing the topic. We'd prefer to leave this topic unlocked if possible, though we hope the majority of helpful and constructive criticism and feedback goes into the survey linked within the news. It would be upsetting if the comments turn into pointed or accusatory jabs, let's try to avoid this. Sometimes it's better to walk away than continue engaging with another player, especially if your views do not align.



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Amelia (#232792)


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Posted on
2021-07-09 17:56:46
Ty for all your hard work! Sorry that some people were needlessly cruel. ❤️



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Kit in a Box
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2021-07-09 18:03:03
As tone is nearly impossible to convey via text I would like to start by saying this is meant to be read as neutral. :)

From my understanding, some players where under the impression that they had to sell GB for SB if they wanted the Applicators. Since, as some people believed, most trades with a SB Buyout would likely be ignored with such a high applicator pricing, it would, naturally, seem like the only other option.
While likely not intended, and certainly not the fault of the Admin, this gives off a pay-to-play vibe which can alienate those that do not, or cannot, pay-to-play.

But the above problem is, unfortunately, player made.

Not everyone has the time to grind SBs to afford a 15kSB applicator, either. (Especially when you consider that one mostly uses SB in their everyday gameplay.) Originally this was 6kSB, which I believe was more in line with other SB priced events. However, it was, apparently, raised due to some players being afraid they couldn't sell their applicators if the pricing was that low.

In reality, prices typically drop during the event the item is available. Previously 2kMS - 3kMS weren't that difficult to gather due to the rewards given by the event story quests. However, with the new July event it would be a bit tougher to gather them, so I can understand the reasoning behind changing it to 6kSB originally.

And while not impossible to gather, the price raise to 15kSB was rather jarring for some players. While I myself have had that amount in the past, and often drop easily more than that on some items or lions, it was a bit discouraging to see that price in an event shop when no other events have had it that high before.

It would be preferable if the applicators were returned with both an AC or SB pricing. I saw that this wasn't an option on the Survey so I thought I would mention it here.

As for those, including myself, giving (hopefully constructive! :,D) criticism about the grind. It is something new that was completely different from previous explore/battle events.
One has to use their energy in regular explore to search for Meteorite Shards, then they use those MS to search for AC/Battles.

While fine at first glance, originally there were blank explore encounters that gave nothing, and, as Lioden is heavily RNG-based, if one is unlucky they could have found nothing while exploring the new area.

The recent tweaks to it have made it better, which is greatly appreciated, but it still is quite different from what some of us are used to. But different is not necessarily a bad thing.
I cannot truly comment upon the difficulty of the battles as I've just been throwing lucky feet at them and laughing. Except for the bosses, haven't quite figured those out just yet.

Lioden has always required a bit of a grind, this is true. The apparent increase in grind may also be from the lack of any storyline/quests that give event currency as rewards. As the previous July event had those, it may be that it is simply a case of having difficulty adapting to the new event in its current state.



I look forward to future updates for this event! I love the new decors and the explore area is very pretty to look at. July has always been one of my favorite events, not for the previous storyline, but for all the bases, eyes, and marks.

While new things require feedback, it rather saddening that some cannot remain civil doing so but hopefully they are a loud minority and not representative of most of the player base.

I am very appreciative of everything the Staff of Lioden does and how quickly the event was tweaked.

Kit loves you all! ;u;/ ♥


Edit: Oh, uh...sorry for the wall of text. That really wasn't my intention. :,D



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Edited on 09/07/21 @ 18:10:36 by Kit in a Box ~🌸~ (#61637)

DandelionKing (#207144)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 18:14:05
I adore the new event so far and absolutely can't wait to see more from it!



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Daisystar (Very
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Posted on
2021-07-09 18:46:13
Oh, update! Awesome!



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Tayba (#189782)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 18:55:24
Thank you coders and devs and artists. You’re amazing and I’m sure as time goes on there’ll be an awesome storyline with more beautiful art for us to appreciate.



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LittleLionMan (#133431)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 19:02:16
i started playing after a long time away and the new event has been a shock, and its not my favorite. but im happy to see things being fixed with feedback, and understand why the old storyline was retired <3 curious to see how this goes!



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Temporal (#134112)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 19:06:12
I really appreciate this update, it seems like you guys put a lot of thought into this and just having it all be clearly laid out is very much appreciated. Im also very glad about the surveys! I do think its been a bit hard to have a specific place for constructive criticism to go and i think this is a really good answer
Thank you admins and mods



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Felis (#227300)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 19:37:46
Thank you so much for all your hard work!! I’m loving the space stuff and colours :)



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phoenix3778 (#136949)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 19:48:03
I keep losing to the enemies in the Celestial thingy. I really don't like this event at all. At. All. I really hate it to be honest. I love the dragon and constellation theme, but I don't think this was the right way to go to be honest. I won't be participating in this event anymore.



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cowboy suitcase [G1
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Posted on
2021-07-09 19:50:31
i'm so sorry y'all had to go through whatever happened via feedback. i understand how awful it is to be attacked both online and irl, and NO ONE should have to go through that. some people are just vile, and they need a serious reality check for it.

i hope that things get better in the future for everyone who both plays the game and works so hard on it



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Ulfruna (#19599)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 19:57:34
There is a lot that can be said that has already been said, so I'll just say the more obscure thing that has me sighing in disappointment: Last month had snakes/snakelike creatures, this month has snakelike 'dragon' creatures.... I'm not digging that. I want more lion content on a lion game.



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starkiller [Marula] (#2996)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 20:01:17
Yay for surveys!! That’s a great idea. :) I know you guys must be really stressed with everything. I’m sorry people were cruel.

A sincere thank you for trying to work everything out.


EDIT: Can I put in a vote for making at least a summary of the survey public? Or even something like couple of graphs showing responses?



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Edited on 10/07/21 @ 00:27:31 by starkiller [Pulsar] (#2996)

🐚samael (#235818)


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Posted on
2021-07-09 20:04:51
@catbreeze212 (#171433) The staff team was attcked through facebook? Maybe thats the reason why the stated that there were rude and hateful comments about the event and them themselves.



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