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 (Frozen!) Micah 🌈✨ (#58378) Divine View Forum Posts  Posted on 2016-03-03 12:00:15 |
Alright, so recently I've really been into using watercolours and markers. How I like to use them, first I stekct the image (duh xD) and then line it with pen. Then, colour with one of the two.. But, no matter what pen I've used, it always smudges or whatever, at least a little. Like with my newest drawing; link Sure, with the pen I tried on this one, it worked pretty well, but it just annoys me how the ink messed up on the teeth, and the ear's inside.. So, uhh.. anyone know of any good art-specific pens I could get online? ^w^ Something that won't smudge?  0 players like this post! Like? |
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Bailysis (#71958)
Astral View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 12:52:46 |
I heard somewhere that with watercolors, you color the sketch and then line it? Try that and see if it works for you. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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(Frozen!) Micah 🌈✨ (#58378) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 12:57:39 |
The pencil always mixed with the watercolour though - maybe its the paper I'm using? 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Bailysis (#71958)
Astral View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:00:11 |
I'm not the best at paper types, so I have no idea xD Try looking online? Google and all that. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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MaeBae (#8161)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:04:17 |
I use a dollar store brand of markers that, no matter what for some reason, NEVER smudges. the one with the bird on it ^ They're thin, but they don't bleed through the paper (too much) and they're pretty cheap, if you can find them! I LOVE them, I stock up on them whenever I buy them. Unsure how they would work with water colors, but I mean, rubbing alcohol didn't move them, nor did coloring over them with markers that do bleed, so I would assume they would work well! 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 03/03/16 @ 20:05:15 by Manete Aurum {Paul Landers} (#8161) |
Will Graham (#75482)
Pervert View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:14:40 |
When you ink it over with a pen, wait two or three minutes before erasing the sketch; the ink, no matter what, will always be wet over graphite and lead, so when you erase it it smudges~ *Resources* I'm a traditional artist myself~ http://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=304429223363 0 players like this post! Like? |
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(Frozen!) Micah 🌈✨ (#58378) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:14:56 |
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(Frozen!) Micah 🌈✨ (#58378) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:16:13 |
Little Sininho - I always let things dry for a few hours - I drew that lioness during mid-schoolday, and painted it a few hours after school. Still smudged when I used the watercolour though. I have no problem erasing the sketch under the ink, I just have a problem with the watercolour smudging the ink. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 03/03/16 @ 20:17:18 by Fonzie (0 / 72k) (#58378) |
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Will Graham (#75482)
Pervert View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:22:01 |
Mm, I see. It looks like you drew it with felt pens, try using specific inking pens! You can find them at almost any art store, and they're used primarily for manga/anime art, where watercolours are used quite a bit. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Will Graham (#75482)
Pervert View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:23:47 |
http://www.dickblick.com/products/copic-multiliner-sp-pens/?clickTracking=true&wmcp=pla&wmcid=items&wmckw=22127-1103&gclid=CIWT9omKpssCFUJkhgodkgoPKg That will probably work the absolute best, since Copic pens are waterproof. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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(Frozen!) Micah 🌈✨ (#58378) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:28:06 |
I didn't draw it with felt - thats just how the water smudges it.. XD Thanks! 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Michimoo (#63028)
Merciful View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:28:58 |
You'll want to use alcohol-based lining pens meant specifically for lining. You may also want to check the thickness of the paper and the weight it can hold 98 pounds (160kg) is usually good. Then make sure when using water color, you don't put on too much. Water colors are meant to be layered because of the transparency they are known for. They aren't meant to be used for solid bold colors, but since I use them myself, and have no other alternative, I just layer them for a more solid affect. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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(Frozen!) Micah 🌈✨ (#58378) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:29:58 |
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Michimoo (#63028)
Merciful View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:31:41 |
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(Frozen!) Micah 🌈✨ (#58378) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:32:59 |
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Michimoo (#63028)
Merciful View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-03-03 13:38:35 |
Oh! Another tip is to draw bigger. The smaller your lines are, the more the ink will pool and smudge. If you draw bigger your lines are thinner and don't hold as much ink, making less smudging 0 players like this post! Like? |
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