Posted by Cerebellar Hypoplasia (200+ supports!)

Milo (#76373)


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2018-06-28 18:47:45
Feline cerebellar hypoplasia (CH) is a non-progressive, non-contagious neurological condition that results in walking and balance problems. A kitten is born with “CH” when her cerebellum, the part of the brain that controls fine motor skills and coordination, is underdeveloped at birth. This causes tremors when excited or scared, causes trouble walking, and they fall down a lot!
I'm not sure if this can occur in lions, but since this game is rather fictional, it would make a good addition to the game!

This would be a lethal mutation for lions, since this makes it difficult to walk around properly- they'd be too wobbly, and without proper physical therapy, it wouldn't get better.

There are three different levels of CH (thank you @Thor #146940 for the suggestion!)

Mild- A clutzy Lion. Has most control of nack legs, unless they get too excited.
Moderate- Can't run very well, but they can still hunt.
Severe- Can't walk at all

Keeping cubs born with this alive would be difficult, if they make it to the point where they are no longer nursing from their mothers. Because this disorder makes it hard to stay upright, this could lead to many different cub accidents that just include them continually bumping their heads on the ground, twisting limbs, etc.
(If there were any art changes at all with this, it would be at birth- the cub wouldn't be standing, their legs would be splayed out. Much like the newborn stage!)

Neither cubs or adolescents with CH would be able to train- obviously they can hardly stand properly without wobbling a whole bunch.

Same for when they grown up- males wouldn't be able to go on patrols, and females wouldn't be able to hunt. This is similiar to eyeless or clawless, but isn't visible, like the others.

The art could possibly change in both make and female if they even make it to adult/Adol stage:
For example, Adol male wouldn't be standing as tall, or not even standing at all. It would look like he'd have trouble balancing, so his limbs would be splayed. Same for Adol females, they'd struggle to balance in a pose like they are currently in.
(Thank you Eclipse#111089 for the suggestion :D)
The female's hind splayed out (since it is usually a laying pose) behind or to the side of her. Another idea for females would be to have the adult version in the usually pose of adols, but with an embarrassed or maybe confused face.

For adult males, they'd be sitting like this, or very closely like it:
IMG_20140914_164012.jpg
(Image from ohmydogblog.com)

An alternate for that would be to have the male looking similar to this:
realistic-bulldog-puppy-dog-in-playful-pose-shaped-pendant-necklace-handmade-jewelry_16b68341-fc63-436f-b01d-aa1278119fe4_1000x.jpg?v=1507903373
(image from https://www.animal-jewelry.com
(Dotoly is the name of the site))

That's all I have for now, if I have anymore ideas I'll edit them into this post! If you can think of anything to add, please comment on this forum! Thank you for reading!

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Edited on 01/03/19 @ 12:14:11 by Milo (#76373)

KaelynTea (#132863)

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Posted on
2018-06-28 18:53:44
I'd love to see one of these in Lioden!



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Alistair (Any/All) (#130789)

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2018-07-01 08:54:30
oh my god it would be so cute to see a klutzy pose for the cub stage.



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Boof ~Team Evil~ (#146940)


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2018-07-01 13:46:23
I was just thinking of patitioning this myself! I have a mild CH russian blue who's blind.
What I was thinking was there would be varying degrees.
Mild- A clutzy Lion. Has most control of nack legs, unless they get to excited.
Moderate- Can't run very well, but they can still hunt.
Severe- Can't walk at all.

I can do the sketxhes too!



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Milo (#76373)


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2018-07-01 13:49:19
@Thor !!! Thata a great suggestion! I'd love to see the sketches :)
Different levels are something I had in mind, but I wasn't sure how that would work, so thank you!



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Chi (#111089)

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2018-07-02 13:21:42
Maybe, for adult art, you could have the female's hind splayed out (since it is usually a laying pose) behind or to the side of her. Another idea for females would be to have the adult version in the usually pose of adols, but with an embarrassed or maybe confused face.

For adult males you could have them sitting IMG_20140914_164012.jpg (Image from ohmydogblog.com) like this or similarly. An alternate for that would be to have the male realistic-bulldog-puppy-dog-in-playful-pose-shaped-pendant-necklace-handmade-jewelry_16b68341-fc63-436f-b01d-aa1278119fe4_1000x.jpg?v=1507903373 (image from https://www.animal-jewelry.com (Dotoly is the name of the site))




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Milo (#76373)


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2018-07-02 13:23:57
@Eclipse wow! Thank you for the suggestion, I appreciate it very much! It'll fit well with this :) I'll add it to the main post!



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Chi (#111089)

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2018-07-02 13:25:50
Do you want me to grab the links and height/width adjustments from my post for you so you don't have to fuss with it to much (if you want the photos)



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Milo (#76373)


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2018-07-02 13:26:41
Yes please! Just pm them to me



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Fishpickles (#149966)

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2018-08-02 17:38:25
the cutest lethal mutation!

My older cat at home has a very minor case of CH and he gets head wobbles and falls over pretty easily if he gets excited, otherwise he's a normal cat.

That being said i can totally agree with this being lethal in the early stages as our ch boy is very minor but was found very underweight (300gr at about 8wks) so i can't imagine a lion cub surviving a harsher environment than say someones barn

An idea would be maybe having it be lethal with evil karma kings, potentially lethal with neutral kings and on debuffing on good kings?



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Edited on 02/08/18 @ 17:43:04 by Fishpickles (#149966)

Milo (#76373)


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2018-08-02 18:39:58
@fishpickles ooh!! Thank you for the suggestion! It's nice to hear different opinions from people who own cats with CH aaa!!



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Fishpickles (#149966)

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2018-08-02 18:53:00
@Milo you're welcome! I was pretty excited to see this suggestion actually!



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Medd(Side) [G2 Ice
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2018-09-23 08:39:01
Been looking for this suggestion awhile, glad to see it <3



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Milo (#76373)


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2018-09-23 08:52:59
@sammi of course!! I've wanted to see this in the game (:



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🐈Lion: Hiatus (#125039)

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2018-10-17 14:10:37
I don't know about lethal. My sister had a CH cat who was VERY fast. It took some practice, but that cat could move. She was also very crafty and found ways to accomplish things in her own ways. This could be very cute, because all the CH cats I've seen tend to be wiry and sit/stand in cute ways, but I'd prefer to support for non-lethal with restrictions for hunting, patrolling, brood mother, and kinging.



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Milo (#76373)


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2018-10-17 15:13:19
Oh!! Thanks for the input. I've been trying to think about the lethality of it, really. House cats could be different from lions because they're in a safer environment, but lions don't have the help of anyone or anything, really. If there's any kind of weakness at a young age, they could be picked off easily.



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