Posted by Breeding Item: No More Random Albinos! [300+ suppo

Meezy ๐ŸŠ (Gen 1
Sunspot) (#95045)

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2018-07-12 03:37:01
Just to clear things up, I don't hate the albino base or believe it should be deleted! This item would be optional! And albinos can still be bred from albino parents! This isn't hating on the base, just an optional breeding item to prevent it from popping up randomly!

Albino bases, depending on who you are, can be cute and pretty or incredibly and inexcusably annoying! They pop up randomly no matter what bases you're breeding, there's no telling when it's going to happen, and there's nothing you can do to control it!

Well I'm here with an idea to change that!

I think there should be a breeding item we can obtain that'll stop the lioness it's fed to from producing random albino cubs. Now, I can't say that I'm very good with pricing but I feel like the item itself should be relatively cheap and obtainable. This is because you never know when your lioness might produce albino cubs, and for those trying to breed rare bases, it doesn't exactly INCREASE the chance of that rare base coming up, it just allows for another chance for that base to show instead of an albino being there.

I think maybe it could be sold the same as Cotton Root Bark from the Oasis at 1GB a pop, or it could be in Monkey Business for however much SB (500-1500sb sounds about okay), or it could be in the Gorilla Enclave, or maybe even just be a cheap event item, but I do think it should be relatively obtainable because it isn't exactly game breaking and you can't predict when an albino cub will be born, you can only prepare for that to not happen with this item.

For what the item could be, there's a berry called 'Pollia Condensata', it is an African fruit which is known to be the 'brightest' fruit in nature but doesn't use pigment to achieve it's colour and it's shade doesn't fade even after a century. They look something like this:

Single Berry

Berry Bunch

A situation in which I see someone using this item is if they're trying to breed for a specific base or specific genetics. For example, someone is trying to breed the Anjeer base, so they're breeding two Red Medium Countershaded Special lions together. The person feeds this item to the lion/lioness (whatever would make more sense, I think the lioness) then breeds them and when they give birth, they have x amount of cubs, none of which are albino.

Just as a little disclaimer, albino is a base and achromia is a mutation. This item is to stop the chance of the base appearing, not the mutation.

This is an item that very much could use an outsider's look to improve on it, so please suggest any changes!

Update: Possible Exploits and/or Confusions and their fixes

This section is just to clear up any possible rumors, exploits or confusions for if this item ever DID come into the game, as I imagine people would get rather confused by some aspects of it.

Exploit: People could try breeding Albino x Albino pairs and using the item to try and get other bases out of it. Same goes with breeding for example an Anjeer x Albino pair then using the item to only get red bases out of it, thus using a cheap alternative to Red x Red breeding pairs.

Solution: This item would only be getting rid of the random chance for Albinos to appear. If you breed an Albino x Albino pair then of course you will get Albino cubs even if you use the item. Same for Any x Albino pairs. This item does not prevent Albinos universally, just the 2-4% chance of them randomly appearing.

Confusion: People breeding black light bases or black medium and still getting an albino even if they used the item.

Solution: Again this item only prevents random Albinos from appearing. Breeding two black light bases, for example Clear White x Cairngorm, will still have a chance of producing an Albino just in the same way that breeding Cinnabar x Orchid might produce a Sapela. This item is more to prevent Albinos from appearing if you breed Red x Red or Cream x Cream or Golden x Golden. Albinos will always be a chance in Black Light/Medium breedings.



This suggestion has 361 supports and 37 NO supports.



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Edited on 31/08/18 @ 05:05:29 by Adhara ๐ŸŒผ (#95045)

Amika (#81856)

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2018-07-12 03:42:06
Yes please, every albino cub I get DIES and so does its mother unless I really like her. I despise albinos so much that I canโ€™t even put it into words. Out of a 4-cub litter, of which the mother was an anjeer and the father a sunset, I had TWO albinos. Fugly ones too! I need this item.



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zoop ๐Ÿธ (ebony) (#41823)

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2018-07-12 07:40:50
how clever!! i personally wouldn't use this item because Lazy and i don't hate albino enough, but i think the capability would be awesome. and i LOVE the thought and worldbuilding you put behind this! could see this in either oasis or monkey business easily. supporting!



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Chimaera (#26037)

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2018-07-12 12:14:32
Definitely support. The Albino base is a pointless overlap with the Achromia mutation these days. It either needs a serious visual rework--the pink is an odd shade and seems unnatural--a rarity rework, or to be removed/replaced altogether for future breedings.



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IndianaSolo221 (#119442)


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2018-07-27 13:29:49
I think this is a great suggestion. You could use the name of the berry, or just call it Albino Repellent. I'd think a price of 500 SB would be fair, because it's not like you're using it to obtain muties or special bases, you're just using it to avoid the albino base.

Albinos can be pretty with the right markings, but there are plenty of breeders who get tired of albino fails. I support!



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V'kai (#97817)

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2018-07-27 13:53:37
Thanks for all the support everyone! <3 (From my side account woops!)



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Edited on 27/07/18 @ 13:56:08 by Eclipse ๐ŸŒ™ (Adhara Side) (#97817)

Yacare (#98603)

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2018-07-27 14:30:33
I have to say no support, sorry. While I also loathe albinos, I think breeding should exclusively be up to the RNG



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๐ŸŽ  opi (side) (#102450)

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2018-07-28 06:04:11
support! i honestly dont care enough, but im sure this would be hella useful, maybe at 600SB at monkey business?



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Meezy ๐ŸŠ (Gen 1
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2018-07-29 12:10:11
@Yacare I totally get the RNG breeding thing! But on this site we're already way past leaving breeding purely up to RNG! We have ochre gnawrocks/saltlicks, opal saltlicks, rock salt, crunchy worms, buffalo balls, lion balls, grains of paradise, red cocks, blue tits, and other breeding items to manipulate RNG in a way that suits us, and these things are (excluding crunchy worms and lion balls) guaranteed!

The same would be for this item that it would be a guarantee that the litter wouldn't pass random albinos, but it wouldn't be a guarantee that the litter would contain an albino in the first place. It'd also be 100% optional to use! So those that like leaving their litters up to RNG would be unaffected, but those trying to breed certain bases would have a better time of it!



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Edited on 11/08/18 @ 08:32:08 by Adhara ๐ŸŒผ (#95045)

Meme Machine (#153211)

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Posted on
2018-07-29 12:12:31
This is such a good idea! The only acceptable albino is the mutie



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Anonymous (#44152)

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Posted on
2018-07-29 12:16:25
I support, i may not personally use it since i do like the random albinos sometimes (mostly when they have darker markings)



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2018-07-31 10:43:23
I will support ANYTHING that stops Albino cubs from ruining my Combo breedings!



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Pixiefeather (#90243)

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2018-08-11 08:36:17
D: but I love albinos!! And my most favourite part is the pink area around the nose, even if itโ€™s unnatural it is still kinda cute. I support anyways, because I can see how frustrating the albino base could be for advanced breeders.




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Edited on 11/08/18 @ 08:39:02 by Pixiefeather (#90243)

Meezy ๐ŸŠ (Gen 1
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2018-08-11 08:37:44
@Pixiefeather || I agree! Again this isn't a thread hating against the base itself, just a suggestion for an optional item for those who don't want the base appearing in certain breedings!



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Chimaera (#26037)

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2018-08-11 08:44:44
I just got an almost blank albino out of my beautiful striped girl on my Hard Mode account so I'm reiterating my loyal, undying support for this idea. x_X

Edit to add: Maybe it could be replaced with a more natural, leucistic-like color? A pale cream like https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/White_Lion.jpg ? It's not "albino" as-is anyways, since it doesn't carry the trademark pink eyes and skin like Achromia does.



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Edited on 11/08/18 @ 09:52:52 by Chimaera (#26037)

Ali (#80161)

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Posted on
2018-08-13 20:19:32
I like this much better than adjusting the pass rate



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