Posted by 🦁Rolled/Raffle “Studs”🦁

harvest 🌲🍊 (#130338)

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Posted on
2020-12-12 11:12:00


EDIT: I'm too lazy to edit this fully but pretend this says make them like the august studs so they also can have value i dont feel like fixing this entire thread yet (sighing emoji) /lh


Introduction


> This suggestion is about a new mechanic or way to introduce new slots and markings without the heavy competition and risk of being a raffle lioness. While the new RL update was good to hear, knowing the stress winners go through, it also puts these new markings at risk should they end up in the hands of someone who may just not understand their rarity! Meaning they could easily end up foddered, or never handed to the public to be seen. <


Info


> I suggest a new mechanic of “studs”! These studs are purely randomized and work like rolled kings. Because they work like rolled kings, their bases and mane remain common, mane type remains common/rolled or oasis applicator, and their eyes and skin are randomised in the gene pool they already have, so can be Breed only or not. <

> This would not pose a threat on the mechanics of the August studs as they are purely rolled, and pose zero competition like RLs and those studs do alike. They are strictly kept to 1-3 markings each, 1-2 being breed only or a new slot/markings, and the other 1-2 being basic t1-0 markings. These fellas are meant to look basic because their only purpose is spreading markings without the competition of raffle lioness buying, selling, and even getting. Meaning player conflict over cubs should be slim to none. <


How It Works


> 1-3 times a month, a stud is put out to the public, where the player can access them 1-3 times/purchase 1-3 “tickets” on each account to use them. Their lioness will automatically be bred, and then it is up to the player with what they want to do w/ their cubs/lions. Because there's tickets, it means there's a fair limit and chance for everyone to try to get what they’re looking for without the stress of RLs, and because the studs aren’t as valuable as RLs, it also means their cub generation should not be as hectic or heavy as the event studs, or even an RL. <


Prices


> Considering RLs are only 50 to purchase your way into the raffle pool, I'd say keep it the same here! Considering they’re definitely not as valuable as RLs go, and not quite the lookers, 50 per ticket/breeding should be fair. <


TL;DR


> New studs released which work completely like rolled kings, with common/plain attributes like manes and bases. Limited studding, and low value mean low conflict, and even chance for everyone to try for cubs. <




This suggestion has 253 supports and 17 NO supports.



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Edited on 28/10/22 @ 09:18:53 by Gravecrypt 🪦 (#130338)

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Posted on
2020-12-12 11:57:46
I really love this idea! It seems like a great way to help markings become more common without putting raffle lioness winners through any kind of stress. Plus it just seems like a fun feature to have!



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di (#126735)

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2020-12-25 17:37:14
I'm someone who knows nothing about marking rarity... but why would raffle lioness winners be under any kind of stress? I think I understand that raffle lionesses have special markings? Are they markings no one else can get? If so, if they don't want to breed them or whatever, they don't have to? So I'm not understanding the stressed part.



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harvest 🌲🍊 (#130338)

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2020-12-25 17:54:51
These slots can mainly only be gotten from the raffle lionesses themselves, thus being they’re extremely valuable and rare. So the winner often times gets bombarded with users asking to buy heats or the rl herself. these slots are important as this is the only way they can be introduced other than RMAs which is extremely, extremely rare. If users don’t know about these slots, especially new markings, it means staff released new traits into the game that most likely wont see daylight or be bred. which is also a waste of releasing new official markings if they never leave the rl.

while obviously its the winners choice on what to do, its also important to note that these are the way new markings are introduced if they’re tier 2, so releasing them to strictly rls can be detrimental to the markings ability to pass should the user not quite understand :0



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Edited on 25/12/20 @ 17:57:32 by Toad 🪴 (#130338)

di (#126735)

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2021-01-25 08:49:28
Ohhh thank you for the explanation! Makes sense now. :)

I don't understand why they'd go through the time and effort to make a marking for a raffle lioness and ONLY put it on her. Cause as you said, what if that lioness is NEVER bred and NEVER passes her special markings? It seems like it would be a waste of the artists time to even make the marking in the first place. :|

Total support. :)



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Ponsibleaut (#237022)

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2021-07-14 23:25:43
This is an awesome idea!



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Ezgati~Crazy Panther
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Posted on
2022-04-15 08:54:22
I like this idea.
But it will be nice, if this markings would be in range of all 20 slots. It is almost impossible to get breed only markings in slot 11 and above. You have to be truly blessed by RNG god to get some from RMA. This could be our ticket to more complex designs... if it will be introduced this way.



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harvest 🌲🍊 (#130338)

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2022-04-15 08:55:25
more fuller designs could def be an option! the only thing about bo in slots past 11 is the market for them is slim and they arent the Most beneficial (you spend more revealing & then revealing again over having them naturally pass by)



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Ezgati~Crazy Panther
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2022-04-15 09:49:12
I agree, having them can be pretty expensive. But it is only on the player, if he will breed to a stud with the marking in that slot, or not... No one forces anyone.
We have this slots in the game for a while, not using them make them completly pointles... This can be a way how to make them more interesting, if not valuable. Also, is just a sugestion...



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Starling (G2 Ice Pie
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Posted on
2022-06-23 20:11:11
This reminds me a lot about the raffle studs on wolvden! I like it



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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2023-04-24 13:34:07
I'd love to see this idea come to fruition. The amount of times I've wished I could just put these marks on a lioness, but the expense of trying to help is exhausting.



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Kem |G2 Cinna (#391969)

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2023-09-30 20:14:57
I know this is an old post. I think we definitely need raffle studs to be added! However, I don’t think 1-3 markings only 1-3 times a month is enough to help spread bo markings. There’s over 350+ tier 2 markings which all have 10 slots so that’s then 3,500+ marking-slot combos. So if we only did 3 markings 3 times a month (that’s 108 markings-slot combos a year) it would take us like 30 years just to get through just tier 2 markings.

Seven studs a week with at least six tier 2 markings (42 markings per a week) would guarantee all current tier 2 markings be distributed in about a year and a half. This could be longer if there’s less than six slots or less studs a week. It could also be faster if there’s more than six slots filled. + longer with new tier 2 markings being added.

I created my own thread/topic before finding yours that goes a little bit more in depth with all the numbers if you’re interested in checking it out (it’s locked so it’s just for information/breakdown - warning it’s extremely long). I just didn’t want to make a three page comment haha. But definitely hope raffle studs get added!

https://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=304429517417



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Edited on 30/09/23 @ 20:15:51 by Kem | G2 Bisected Colorbomb (#391969)

harvest 🌲🍊 (#130338)

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Posted on
2023-09-30 20:21:35
OOH IM ABT TO GO TO BED but if u wouldn't mind I'd love to add some of ur data/Info (all credited!)
Might make it a little more insightful than what it is now HELFIDH
only if ur comfy!! but ur post is definitely more in depth than mine so I'd love to boost some of ur thoughts with the right credits!



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Kem |G2 Cinna (#391969)

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2023-09-30 20:26:19
GET SOME SLEEP! But I’m totally fine with that and would love to help with you whatever you needed! I spent hours/days on going super in-depth with the numbers and everything so I’m happy if it gets used! However, some of the data from the thread is a little old since it was before Burmese, Roan, Spice were added. I’ll try to update the numbers here in a little bit. <3



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Edited on 30/09/23 @ 22:37:57 by Kem | G2 Bisected Colorbomb (#391969)

Kem |G2 Cinna (#391969)

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Posted on
2023-10-10 14:41:09
Alright so I FINALLY had enough time to count a bajillion markings and do the math breakdowns if you’re still interested.

There is currently 363 markings. With each having 10 slots we’re looking at a total of 3,630 marking slot combos. Out of the 3,630 marking slot combos 2,301 of them have less than 200 lions.

So if we did 7 studs a week with at least 6 slots of tier 2 markings (42 markings a week) all 3,630 markings would be distributed in a little bit over a year and a half. Which I think is a reasonable time frame and of course it would take longer as more tier 2 markings get released. Or shorter if there is more than 6 slots of tier 2 markings per a stud.

There is also 52 event markings (July/August) which is a total of 520 marking slot combos. Out of the 520 marking slot combos 252 of them have less than 200 lions. So if we did 3 slots of bo event markings a week it would a little over three years to distribute all 520 markings which isn’t bad because you don’t want to take away from the events but still cover where they slack.

However, I do think it should still be raffle based (100-200 winners a stud = 700 - 1400 winners a week) with a cooldown (1-2 weeks or 7-14 studs - more winners less cooldown?). So everyone gets a chance to win a studding, but the markings don’t overflow into the market!

And then you know my thread/topic goes more into depth on everything else you might want to use! Copy and paste it for all I care lol! I’m just glad that it might be of some use and helpful and hopefully push us closer towards getting raffle studs (sorry this is so long)<33



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Edited on 11/10/23 @ 21:36:06 by Kem | G2 Bisected Colorbomb (#391969)







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