Posted by Karma combos: Luminous, Tenebris, Smolder [100+]

kreech (#430477)

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2024-04-08 11:49:21
Since we have season and month restricted combos, why not have karma restricted combos? Once you're past a certain amount of karma, there's no further incentive to push your karma levels further. Meanwhile, there are not a lot of benefits to staying neutral, and it's also difficult to stay neutral. So, I'm suggesting karma combos as an incentive to either push one's karma levels further or stay neutral. (Maybe if you're beyond a certain level, or are within a certain range if you're breeding for a neutral combo, you could get a small 1-2% boost?)
Note that breeding for these only accounts for the karma of the stud. If your lead is not the sire, your karma doesn't factor into it.
For the first ones, I think it would be nice if the factors included July and October bases since those are the months whose storylines most revolve around a good/evil/neutral trichotomy


Luminous
Golden Light Countershaded Special - tied to Pale skin

Base shown w/ Dawn eyes and White skin

Factors:
Dawn/Serruria/Festive/Cherry Blossom/Heavenly x Angelic/Citrine/Sunspot/Teardrop/Sulphur
The ultimate "good guy" base. I just thought Angelic and Dawn would make a nice combo and extrapolated from there.

How to obtain
Breed the above factors while the stud has a karma level 1200 or above.

Smolder
Red Medium Countershaded Special - tied to Welsummer skin

Base shown w/ Sunglow eyes and Red skin

Factors:
Sunrise/Ember/Fiery/Rhubarb/Astral x Bloodbourne/Sunset/Maroon/Cinnabar/Rufous (wdym there are no uncommon Red Solids)
Nice, bright and fiery

How to obtain
Breed the above factors while the stud has a karma level between -1200 and 1200. I added more applicator and non-special factors to make it easier to breed for since I suspect that a neutral combo would be the hardest to breed for

Tenebris
Black Dark Solid Special - tied to Ink skin

Base shown w/ Cosmic eyes and Black skin
Based loosely off of Brocken spectres

Factors:
Jellyfish/Nadir/Incense/Interstellar/Divine x Demonic/Styx/Haze/Cimmerian/Noctis (I'm less sure on Interstellar, but I couldn't find a more suitable dark blue base that isn't Ice so)

How to obtain
Breed the above factors while the stud has a karma level -1200 or below

Edit: replaced Alabaster w/ Festive bc I think it fits Luminous's theme better



This suggestion has 119 supports and 13 NO supports.



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Edited on 02/05/24 @ 16:03:21 by kreech (#430477)

TheClassCalico (#88888)

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2024-04-08 11:54:27
These are pretty, but they're a little punishing for those who choose a different karma option than their preferred base. Say, for example, somebody likes Smoulder, but they are strictly good on their main and evil on their side, and are not willing to deviate.

It is true that people could purchase them from other players, but some people would prefer to breed them themselves. I'd love all of these (especially Luminous!!) in the game, but not for them to be locked behind karma. Maybe instead this could be based on the personalities of the king and/or queen?


Never mind, my eyes managed to skip over a good chunk of the suggestion. I can read, I promise. Support!




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Edited on 08/04/24 @ 11:58:10 by TheClassCalico (#88888)

kreech (#430477)

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2024-04-08 11:57:18
I mean, they can still send stud requests to lions w/ the required base + karma range?



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TheClassCalico (#88888)

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2024-04-08 11:59:00
@Kreech. I managed to overlook that entire section. I've changed my vote.



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2024-04-08 12:31:15
This might be applicable but just messing your karma up a tiny bit (say you go a few points under the threshold) without noticing could ruin several combo breeds



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kreech (#430477)

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2024-04-08 12:36:37
I mean, 2 of the bases are partly meant to incentivize pushing one's karma levels further if one wants to do mass combo breeding or attract other combo breeder stud requests, since breeding projects seem to be fairly popular

Also, if your karma is between -1000 and 1000, chances are you'll miss out on at least the 1000/-1000 karma explore encounters



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2024-04-08 12:56:27
Yes but say you’re at +1000 karma, explore a little, and squish a warthog for food, then go back to mass breeding. You remember the warthog and that whole batch of lionesses is wasted.
Also, how would we know other people’s karma? We already can’t see it, so the karma stud thing would need that to change



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kreech (#430477)

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2024-04-08 13:06:12
It costs 50sb to reveal one's current karma; it's not a big loss, especially since anyone who can do mass breeding or have a valuable stud is likely to be at least fairly wealthy already.

For a mass breeder w/ a factor base, all they have to do is spend 50sb to check karma (100 if they need to adjust it), then breed any compatible lionesses in heat. For a stud, chances are that their stud price is already significantly above 50sb, especially if they have a special base, and they can adjust karma once for multiple combo breeding requests

Also we have multiple storylines that incentivize drastically increasing/decreasing karma depending on your choices, namely July and October, which is also why I included July and October bases as factors so that it's not too much harder



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Edited on 08/04/24 @ 13:14:43 by kreech (#430477)

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2024-04-08 14:21:37
HUGE support! I'd love more uses for karma and these bases are beautiful



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2024-04-08 21:59:08
Unfortunately did not support.

I want to piggyback off of what air conditioner said, I think its a good idea but it’d be far too complicated with the stud in terms of karma managing since its something that fluctuates so often and easily. The third base I feel is also too dark, and not really compatible with many popular markings.



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kreech (#430477)

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2024-04-21 14:41:40
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I mean, it's kinda meant to be a neat challenge like the other combos as well as a possible incentive for players to push their karma further, either to breed them themselves or attract stud requests. And as far as manageability goes, compared to month/weather/time based combos it's more accessible since one can breed for a karma combo at any time, there are several months that focus on karma levels depending on your choices (July and October especially, and to some extent August, September, November, December, & January; that's 7 months at minimum that can help you get to and maintain the karma range you want) making it easier to , and at worst it only costs 50sb per scry to make sure one has the right karma

Also, Tenebris isn't much darker compared to Styx, Cimmerian, or Noctis, any markings that work on the latter bases should also work on Tenebris



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2024-05-02 16:00:06
Really nice idea and love bases concept !



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