I absolutely suppot :)

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full support it annoys me that i can only train one submale at a time when i can have 4-5 (cant remember) sub males at a time i would actually be fine with any idea but really like the second one make them go together and the more experience ones could train the younger ones

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very good idea... i just hope they dont make it so like.. males get 1 stat per flippen go.. that would just piss me off.... im kinda nervous now.

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I would support this if it was tweaked.

There are after all 10 tiles you can go on. Now, you can divide these 10 tiles among your subs.
The rate and chance of gaining stats and finding items/carcasses would depend on how many tiles they went on.

Eg.:

Submale 1 was sent to 10 tiles.
Submale 2 was sent to no tiles.
Obviously submale 1 will get 100% something, while submale 2 gets nothing.

Eg number 2:
Submale 1 was sent to 5 tiles.
Submale 2 was sent to 5 tiles.
Now both of them have 50% chance to bring back stats and some kind of an item.

Eg number 3:
Submale 1 was sent to 7 tiles.
Submale 2 was sent to 3 tiles.
First submale has 70% chance to bring back stats and items, while the second only has 30%. After all, they are patrolling on not equal fields.

This is more like the current hunting system. After all, you can choose to send 5 lionesses 2 times, or 10 lionesses once, which means that the 5 lionesses gain 2x more stats because they go on more hunts, while 10 lionesses get their stats divided. Same goes to submales. Their statgain is divided if more are sent to patrol.

Because really, if you can send more submales with the same chance, you will get 2 high statted submales in no time. If someone only has 1 submale, obviously they can concentrate more on its training, thus is easier to train. 2 submales however need more attention, and it might be less effective.

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yeah right nvm dont feel like going into a discussion...

support for Genny =]

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This might not work. After all, the submales are sent on different tiles, not the same. They arent working together, unlike the lionesses at hunting, where placing the lionesses on the same type of tiles means as teamwork only.

Submales on the other hand patrol in a completely different way. After all, you send submale 2 on the tiles where submale 1 wasnt placed, using the remaining moves.

And if you think about it, submales arent as helpful towards each other. Wouldnt they attempt to become better and gain the place of king? Why would they help one another? Of course they wouldnt. Submales are rivals for the 'throne', thus would work for themselves and not together.

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Absolutely support and I love both ideas, though the first idea would probably be better, since as Axel said its hard to define teamwork in patrolling ^.^

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Support, first idea. c:

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just watched a nice video yesterday on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxxloZSInCg

shows submales hunting together and helping each other getting kills

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That... is a coalition of young males who work together to become leaders of a pride together. And not just one of them.

This is the difference between Lioden and that video. Here only one submale can become leader, while the other goes without any leadership rights, thus they are rivals and not a coalition.

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Maybe if 2 subs were sent patrolling together, they would get into fights which would cost hunger and whatnot... and maybe the winner would gain some stats...

Then, sending 2 subs at the same time would have both pros and cons... the pro being that two subs have a better chance of finding something, the con being that, should they get into a fight, you'll have to feed the loser again (if you've already fed him, or feed him twice as you originaly would have had to) and that only the winner would gain stats (perhaps he gains the stats he would have normaly gained plus the stats the loser would have gained).

If they don't get into a fight, then perhaps they would each gains some stats but less than if they had gone alone.

Or perhaps something like that, I don't know, but other than that, I like this idea!

Support! ;3

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That... would force people to have 2 subs at the same time, Pfeffa. The slots arent cheap, and most can only afford one slot.

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Wait, I don't mean that you NEED two subs, I just mean that we need some system so that sending only ONE sub would have it's good sides and it's bad sides and that sending TWO subs would have DIFFERENT good sides or bad sides so that, in the end, it's equally productive to send either one or two subs...

I didn't really have time to think through or explain how it could work, but both options should have both pros and cons so that nobody with just one male slot would be at a disadvantage, and if two subs got into fights, it might discourage sending two subs at the same time and make it more fair for those with only one slot. And it would be more realistic?

That's actually why I sugested that the sub males should fight... or something... to try and think of a more realistic option...

I dunno... it needs work, I guess...


EDIT:

Maybe like this...

1 sub - Might find something, might gain some stats

2 subs - less chances of gaining stats (because of fights) (perhaps the winner of the fight would gain stats and the loser would lose some?) greater chance of finding something...

Meh, I still need to do some thinking about this... but maybe something similar....or something... I don't know, I'm really not sure...

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