Posted by Dicephalus Parapagus Dipus [Mutation]
JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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2018-05-16 14:56:35
Sup Lioden! Got a New Suggestion for you!

Basically, for a long time, I've always thought it'd be cool to have a two headed lions. Two headed animals happen plenty in nature. So I figured, why not have a twin headed lion? The mutation Lioden calls "Two Head" is more accurately described as diprosopus, which is two Faces on one head instead two entirely separate heads, as seen here and here. Dicephalus Parapagus Dipus is kind of a mouthful; Just Dicephalus or simply Polycephalus would also be fine.

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About the Mutation


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* Tentative and subject to change.
- Something I'm pretty deadset on.
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- DPD is not an applicable mutation, so would not have a MOD. It would be bred just like any other non-passable mutation.
- DPD would have the same rarity/occurrence rate as mutations such as OG Claws, Teeth, and Polycaudal, maybe slightly less, but they'd be more common than First Gen Dwarves.
- DPD is a heritable mutation that can pass from both males and females. I'm seeing it with a pass rate of between .5% and 1% to keep the mutation uncommon vs. other passable mutations.
* Since most cases of DPD have been in female animals and people, this mutation would occur more readily in female cubs than male cubs. To preserve the value of the DPD and not have a primal situation (oversaturation of primal studs and subsequent decline in primal value), genders would be locked at birth. This gives some value to male DPD cubs as they could spread the mutation the fastest if kinged, but outright males would be relatively rare. ALTERNATIVELY, the pass rate could be higher in females and lower in males.
- Dicephalic lions would have two personalities. Two of the same personalities would not yield double benefits (You will not get 60% energy for having two Hyperactive personalities on a DPD King). However, two different personalities could (If one head is Fatherly and the other is Candid, they reap both benefits).
- Passive Personality traits such as luck with lone lionesses and effect on the mood of the pride could be enhanced by doubled personalities however.
* DPD females have a slightly higher change of producing Two-Headed lethal cubs than normal.
- One cub litters will never be Dicephalus cubs. In keeping with reality, a DPD cub would occur in a litter of two or greater. Yes it would be possible for two DPDs to occur in a litter of 4 cubs.
- DPD lions could possibly have different eyes, mane colors, and mane shapes. However, Base and Skin color would always be the same.
* DPD lions could pass and inherit double markings since technically they are two individuals.
- Got an idea? Tell me about it in the comments!



This suggestion has 126 supports and 18 NO supports.



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Edited on 16/05/18 @ 15:14:51 by Jackass|Çɮ|4Ƥᙢ|GenE (#103364)

Micah (#76335)

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2018-05-16 15:18:49

Support!
There's cases of two headed animals living for quite some time, one snake lived to twenty years!
I think this would be a great feature, I'll try and think of some ideas!

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Edited on 16/05/18 @ 15:20:43 by Ryan (#76335)

JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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2018-05-16 15:22:23
A lot of them die early though. To keep the mutation rare, I'd even support early deaths for females and males.
Maybe 10 years for Lionesses and 12-13 for Kings?



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Micah (#76335)

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2018-05-16 15:24:15

I was considering that, actually!
I noticed the longest lifespans came from reptiles/amphibians, not mammals.




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Noxis (#102137)


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2018-05-16 15:43:47
It would be so weird, going to a King and getting two heads looking at you, I have to support though because that would be something I want to see.

If it's a King which head would the Profile Block focus on? Would you get to choose?



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JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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2018-05-16 15:45:42
Didn't think of that. That'd be nice, to be able to choose.
And possible even give that lion two names, so when you choose you could truly choose.



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Noxis (#102137)


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2018-05-16 15:53:40
I like the Idea of females with the mutation having a higher chance of Two-Head Lethals, but wouldn't they have a higher rate in general since something has to be messed up in her genetics? Like would Lionesses with that have a higher chance of having stillborn litters even if they were nested?



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JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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2018-05-16 16:04:34
I dont think we should mess with normal litters, unless it was a rather low chance. If your cubs are nested, you should be fine, is my belief.

Actually, I think nesting is kind of annoying in general.



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Micah (#76335)

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2018-05-16 16:32:47

"Actually, I think nesting is kind of annoying in general."
Nesting forty girls does take a lot of time, eh? (;
I'm with you there, I spend way too much on nesting materials.

And perhaps a view of both heads would be great!




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JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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Posted on
2018-05-16 16:35:29
Not sure how we're gonna fit two heads into one icon box.



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Micah (#76335)

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Posted on
2018-05-16 16:36:51

I try and see if I can sketch something out tonight!




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A A A A (#128439)

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2018-05-16 17:05:47
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Edited on 15/07/18 @ 00:56:57 by Pen (#128439)

JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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2018-05-16 17:09:38
A Chimera is an animal thats half one look on one side and half one look on the other side. I think staff can manage something a simple as eye and mane color and mane shape. Stacked personality benefits should be easy too.



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Louse
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2018-05-16 20:00:57
Mayhaps sex changing reduces the lifespan of a Dicephalus lion? Sex changing to female will always put her in the VLF-Low bracket?



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JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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2018-05-16 20:11:41
Something to discourage/offset male king DPDs...maybe that could work?

Im imagining all DPDs would be locked at VLF fertility though.



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Black Rhinoceros (#68593)

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2018-05-16 21:38:11
I absolutely adore this idea! However, I think this should be a possible fatal mutation, but with a rollover warning so they can be frozen. Some two-headed animals are stillborn (we can't have that, but we can have them die at their first rollover). Some two-headed animals can live for a while but die before adulthood (they could die before 12 months). Some may make it to adulthood.



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