Outside of some restrictions placed on lions without heritage (can't be sex changed, afaik), there really isn't that much of a difference between a lion with no heritage, a lion with 20+ generations, and a lion with inbreeding in the heritage. Since the game allows for inbreeding with no in-game effects, the ability to wipe a lion's heritage has no benefit, and in fact, may restrict what can be done with such a lion. I feel like an item ought to have some in-game benefit to be introduced.

The only benefit I can think for such an item would be one that is entirely player created. Many players prefer lions with no instances of inbreeding, for a variety of reasons. Many other players don't care about inbreeding. The game certainly has no preference, as lions with inbreeding and lions without inbreeding are treated exactly the same (assuming all other variables are identical).

Since the proposed item's only benefit is one that makes the lion more valuable or desirable to a certain subset of players, I don't think it should be added to the game.

You have liked this post!

I disagree.

With certain lions, there is a HUGE difference between a heritageless lion and an inbred lion. It's not so much a certain subset as a common preference sitewide, and heritage absolutely affects a lion's value. Consider feruses, dwarfs, hybrids. A second gen ferus or dwarf costs literal hundreds more than a third or fourth gen. Why? Because of the clean heritage.

Groupies are already extremely prolific. A heritage wiper has great potential to crash this even further.

I really don't care if someone decides to only have non-inbred lions or if they like hella inbred lions, that's fine, but you can't act like it shouldn't added because the impact would be "small." It would be huge. And that could be a massive problem.

ETA: As for the actual suggestion, I think any implementation would have to make it extremely scarce and hard to come by to be balanced, and then I wonder what the point is? It's just something that's real easy to mess up.

You have liked this post!

I agree with you. My point wasn't that there was no impact whatsoever, merely that there was no gameplay mechanic benefit. The player-made market would certainly be hugely impacted if such an item were introduced. I don't even know how far-reaching the effects would be, but it would be on a massive scale and irrevocably alter the lion market.

My argument was that a lion without a heritage has no mechanical, gameplay benefits over a lion with a heritage (large or small) or a lion that's inbred. Unless an item grants some mechanical benefit to the lion in terms of gameplay, and gameplay alone, I don't think it should be introduced. I also include applicators in "gameplay mechanics", as they do have a visual change to the lion and can impact what the cubs will look like.

An item that impacts the player-made market should also have some mechanical benefit, as well.

You have liked this post!

Personally, I don’t mind having inbred lions. My suggestion mainly comes from selling lions. Sometimes people may want to sell a beautiful lion with rare markings, high stats, etc., but I would say many people, most of the game, prefer low-gen lions. Low gen and/or clean. In my opinion, the ability to buy whatever you want and make them clean if you prefer is a benefit to that side of the players who would choose that.

I do think however as stated above, this would have to be something that is not crazy accessible to somewhat balance the market. An event item maybe.

Just a suggestion though :)

You have liked this post!

^^ excuse the grammar. I was not on my PC and my fingers are too big for the buttons on my phone.

You have liked this post!

This would just be utterly market-breaking.

You have liked this post!