Posted by Trades: Let us Edit Them!

Gee (#196201)

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2024-04-15 20:10:00
So I can't be the only one who has set up a trade and wanted to edit the BO or the 'requirements' section for offers without loosing the watchers you've gotten from the trade already. I'm not sure if this has been suggested already and shot down, or if it got buried, but I think it would be such a good quality of life adjustment.

Like I mentioned above, the reason this would be so beneficial is for people selling high priced items/large trades/Hybrid trades/RLC trades for multiple reasons:

1. Trade center pricing rising and falling due to popularity OR other trades (trying not to undersell/oversell)
Example: Breeding item prices rising and falling during events, someone else putting up a similar Lion for a different price (price matching)
2. Changing the little section where you can write suggestions for offers, maybe you changed your mind on what you're willing to accept
Example: Accepting no Lions! > I will accept NRLCs of this line!

#281374 suggested: I was thinking maybe a pop up along the lines of, "this trade has been edited/altered, please recheck details" (only appears once). Or a little cooldown after the trade has been changed.

Basically, if the trade has been altered, a message would be sent to those offering, and maybe even those watching and allow them to view the trade, and possibly even a certain cooldown of editing for the person making the trade so there's no quick editing.

#353972 suggested: I think when someone is editing their trades, all offers could automatically be declined while sending a notice to those players as well as the watchers that the trade has been updated. I believe a 5 minutes or so cooldown once the trade has been altered would reduce the chance that someone buy the trade before seeing the newly edited one, or, send an error to the person trying to buyout on the previous page similar to the ''This trade no longer exists.'' popup.

Kinda similar to above, but I wanna list all good suggestions, as this one I feel goes more into possible ways they can avoid exploitation for both the trade owner and those watching/buying

#227242 suggested: Instead of deleting and recreating it you could have a "Disable and Edit" button.

When you use it anyone watching the trade could receive a pop-up along the lines of "A trade you are watching has been disabled for editing", and then maybe something like "Click here to un-watch" or "Click here to view." A disabled trade could then only be viewed by those already watching it/with pending offers, but they would only be able to un-watch/remove offers, very limited interaction, NO Buy Out/Make an Offer section.

Then there would be a notification when it is reenabled such as "A trade you were watching has been edited and relisted, click here to view."

It could be very similar for those with outstanding offers "A trade you made an offer on has been disabled for editing", "Click here to remove offer", and "A trade you made an offer on has been relisted, click here to view."

Then, just to guarantee those with offers re-check the trade, they could be "forced" to view their offer, or given a pop up like "This trade has been edited, click here to update you offer".

This makes a lot of sense, and would be great combined with the ideas above to do something like:

"This trade has been disable and edited. Your offer of (blank) was removed for your review of the contents. Click here to view the trade"

This would make it more fair and safe for those offering so a BO or whatnot wasn't changed and then their offer taken without them viewing etc!

I would really love to see this become a reality at some point, as a person who sells high priced lions a lot, taking down a trade to edit it when I have ten watchers could possibly lose me offers if they never go looking again. Also, if this has been mentioned and shot down before, lmk!



This suggestion has 53 supports and 1 NO support.



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Edited on 29/04/24 @ 17:54:18 by Gee (#196201)

Bluebell [G1
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2024-04-15 20:19:13
Support! Maybe there could also be an option to alert watchers if there are adjustments made so they aren't caught of guard. Similarly to how a watcher is notified when a trade is canceled/bought or if a trade offer was accepted. A downside of this I can think of would be the buyer raising the price right as someone is buying out the trade for the displayed lower price (as it may not have refreshed on their screen) so they pay more than they anticipated.



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Edited on 15/04/24 @ 20:20:03 by Bluebell [G1 Vagabound] (#281374)

Gee (#196201)

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2024-04-15 20:21:30
I can see that! Maybe there'd be some way like if there's offers up, you can't change the BO itself until all of the offers are rejected? I guess if someone is BOing as someone is changing that would be a 1 in a million scenario that hopefully wouldn't happen, or maybe when a trade is being edited you are unable to BO?



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Edited on 15/04/24 @ 20:21:51 by Gee (#196201)

Bluebell [G1
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2024-04-15 20:28:54
I didn't even think about trade offers. Yea, having it so the trade can't be changed when there's offers would be a great idea as otherwise it would be easy to exploit others and potentially lead to more work for moderators.

I was thinking maybe a pop up along the lines of, "this trade has been edited/altered, please recheck details" (only appears once). Or a little cooldown after the trade has been changed.



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Gee (#196201)

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2024-04-15 20:30:05
Agreed, lemme add something like that to the original post!



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Lunaire (#353972)

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2024-04-15 21:40:51
To add to the previous ideas- I think when someone is editing their trades, all offers could automatically be declined while sending a notice to those players as well as the watchers that the trade has been updated. I believe a 5 minutes or so cooldown once the trade has been altered would reduce the chance that someone buy the trade before seeing the newly edited one, or, send an error to the person trying to buyout on the previous page similar to the ''This trade no longer exists.'' popup.

From my point of view, I don't think the content of the trade itself should be changeable. Only the title, description and buyout should to avoid scamming or simply using the fact that you have 10+ watchers to sell another lion instead.



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Bluebell [G1
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2024-04-15 21:50:10
Fully agree^ those are great points!



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Gee (#196201)

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2024-04-15 21:53:14
Those are really great points! Lemme add those thank you @Lunaire :)



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2024-04-22 21:52:12
I like this idea and support overall, I'd be worried about bugs and glitches occurring on the off chance the buyer presses buy and the seller saves an edit to their trade at the same time, if that makes sense.



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Gee (#196201)

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2024-04-22 22:18:40
Yeah, I guess that could be a very minor issue, however that could theoretically happen now (someone cancels a trade right as someone clicks buyout), I think it's just the fault of multiplayer website games at that point, since it's all 'real time'



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Freyja (#227242)

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2024-04-29 17:22:39
To work around that maybe there could be a way to "disable" the trade temporarily?

Instead of deleting and recreating it you could have a "Disable and Edit" button.

When you use it anyone watching the trade could receive a pop-up along the lines of "A trade you are watching has been disabled for editing", and then maybe something like "Click here to un-watch" or "Click here to view." A disabled trade could then only be viewed by those already watching it/with pending offers, but they would only be able to un-watch/remove offers, very limited interaction, NO Buy Out/Make an Offer section.

Then there would be a notification when it is reenabled such as "A trade you were watching has been edited and relisted, click here to view."

It could be very similar for those with outstanding offers "A trade you made an offer on has been disabled for editing", "Click here to remove offer", and "A trade you made an offer on has been relisted, click here to view."

Then, just to guarantee those with offers re-check the trade, they could be "forced" to view their offer, or given a pop up like "This trade has been edited, click here to update you offer".

Sorry this is so long-winded, and I hope it makes sense. I have very strong opinions about being able to edit trades lol



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Gee (#196201)

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2024-04-29 17:52:13
No I totally agree with you! I like the Idea of the disabled trades which make it def fair on those who have offers out and whatnot! This along with like the others ideas would be great, something along the lines of

"This trade has been disable and edited. Your offer of (blank) was removed for your review of the contents. Click here to view the trade"

This would make it more fair and safe for those offering so a BO or whatnot wasn't changed and then their offer taken without them viewing etc!

Also I have a lot of opinions on the trading system as well so don't feel like yours isn't valid bc I agree :)



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Edited on 29/04/24 @ 17:55:59 by Gee (#196201)







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