Posted by cooldown for lioness

Nynke {6 special
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2013-09-26 01:23:45
A cooldown for lioness instead of a cooldown for hunting.
We were given a lot of territory, but not enough training options to keep so many lioness!

So after your lioness came back after 15 minutes, they will have a cooldown of an hour before they can hunt again.
That means, that after 15 minutes, you'd be able to send OTHER lioness out for hunting. When they get back, they need to cooldown for an hour.
If you do the math, that means we could keep 4 teams of 5 lioness if you want a constant rotation. That would mean 25 lioness kept on a regular base - a lot more then 5-7 lioness I see most people keeping.

I think it could help solve the cub-problem. People can't really keep a lot of lioness, since hunting in the only way we can train them. All the others ... just sit there. This way, having more territory makes sense if we can send more lioness out. And at the same time, you still have your 1-hour cooldown. You can't train the same lioness more then you do now, you just train more lioness, not just the same ones.

Would it make the food too cheap?
NOPE! The food has a sort of minimum value, thanks to the monkey business! And - if people keep more lions, they'll need more food too. The number of lioness should go up equally with the food.

I see more people then just me keeping only 5 lioness, and selling all the others because we just can't do anything with them. So logically, a lot of people will suddenly use a lot more food too. So, food keeps it value.

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Laszlo (#10825)

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2013-11-08 08:18:38
The market currently is flooded with low statted cubs, only bred for color. High statted cubs at least are still more desired and are far rarer than the low statted ones. I repeat once more: cubs with LOW stats are flooding the market. Now we dont need cubs with high stats flooding as well so no one can sell anything and prices would drop dramatically, unbalancing the economy.

Yes, stats will eventually go higher, but with a cooldown placed on every lioness instead of the account this count would drastically rise. Not the value but the COUNT of lionesses with high stats, which would give birth to huge amounts of high statted cubs, which in turn will cause trouble on the market.

Do you understand it better?

The problem isnt the value, but the COUNT.



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Nkanyezi (#21486)

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2013-11-08 08:38:21
No, not really. Stats are already going up quickly as someone else said. The top males right now are more than double the stats now then they were a month ago.

Stats are going to go up. That's how the game is made to work, isn't it? Cubs with 200 stats are already less valuable than they were just a little while ago, aren't there? Now people are more interested in 500+ it seems.

You can still only send 5 lionesses at a time even if the cooldown is for the individual female since the original idea hasn't mentioned increasing the number of a hunting party. No one is going to be sending out 40 lionesses at the same time.

Honestly, the economy is already highly unbalanced. Studs with 100 stats are 10 GB because of a certain coat color. Males with 1000+ stats are often half that because they have a 'common' color. Cubs with certain coat colors are far more expensive than cubs with better stats. I don't think giving an option to train some extra lionesses is really going to utterly change anything at all.

Most people don't even seem to hunt their lionesses that often, regardless of pride size. I do because I enjoy it, but most people only send theirs out 5, 6 times a day at most.

So, there's no need to be rude. I understood your complaints about 'too many' high-statted cubs, but I wasn't following your logic how patrols, which do the same thing as hunts, were better. Yes, you could only send the female solo, but it would still be raising her stats so... I wasn't following why that would be fine, but being able to hunt 10 lionesses in all instead of 5 was going to cause some huge issue.



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Laszlo (#10825)

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2013-11-08 16:44:04
I repeat. NOT the VALUE. The COUNT of high statted cubs will flood the market.

I know, as I have written that stats will rise. Hell, it can, I dont care about that. That is the right order, seeing the higher statted lionesses will give birth to higher statted cubs. I am not being rude, I just see people insanely repeat that value of skill will rise. That will rise. I dont care about that
What I care about is the flood of of high statted cubs in the market. How cant you see the insane damage it would cause?

When I said patrols, I said they bring back toys or small carcasses. Didnt say anything about stats. They wouldnt bring back stats at all. Just toys and small carcasses. There ya go, more uses for lionesses and they wont just sit in your den looking pretty.



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Nkanyezi (#21486)

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2013-11-08 17:01:14
You're just repeating yourself, Laszlo, and not really explaining. I read and understood just fine, but no I don't see any 'insane damage' being done honestly. I think you're over-estimating the impact being able to train a few extra lionesses is going to do. I don't really think there is going to be a huge flood of 800+ stat cubs because of that or something similar.

If it was that easy to produce cubs with that high of stats, there would already be far more of them. Many people don't seem to hunt or level their lionesses a great deal so I don't see this having near as huge an impact as you're assuming it will.

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.



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2013-11-09 22:12:30
Yep, sup :3



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Nynke2 {+1200 Fiery} (#13009)

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2013-11-09 22:27:45
Laszlo, stop being so rude to people that comment here. I do not mind people starting a discussion in what they believe and think, but keep it polite. I like hearing arguments to my idea, but no reason to be impolite.

I'd also like to remind you, that not everybody is constantly breeding their lions. Like people before you already said, small prides usually get money from selling food, not lions.

I have a small prides, and I don't breed them often. I breed my lioness the last 2-3 times they go into heat, and take my pick out of those nests. I sell the others.
It's not because people HAVE high stat lions that they will constantly be breeding them. With the decrease in nest size we already have, it'll take most people a month to get a 2end hunting party if they chose to breed one themselves, and then they won't have any cubs to sell.

The reason the market is overflown by low stat cubs, is because color breeders keep trying to produce lions with the most beautiful and best looking markings. A nice goal if you ask me, with an annoying side effect of having an overflow in the market. However, you math imply that everyone with lions is constantly breeding. Witch they do not, and they won't suddenly start doing this because of an extra hunting team.



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Naestie (#21729)

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2013-11-10 00:56:51
if this was added there would also be no more need for a second account so the argument with 30 lions on each account in invalid since most people only keep second accounts to have more then 5 hunters.

I know i would close my sub account if i could hunt all 10-15 lioness on my main account. Right now i got to split up my pride and sell/chase a lot of cups because i simply cant do anything with them.

Just a side note i had to send off my oasis girl today cuz my prune aged 2 and i wanted to hunt her and tomorrow i have to pick another of my girls to retire since i want to train up my cocoa



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Edited on 10/11/13 by Hellzy (#21729)

Nynke2 {+1200 Fiery} (#13009)

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2013-11-10 01:43:27
That would be your choice to close your second account.

You kinda contradict yourself here - you say you chase/sell a lot because you can't do a thing with them ... the idea behind his, is that we could keep more without just having them sit there.

However, I don't believe a lot of people would close their second account. Besides the extra hunters, you also have the option of keeping a 2end king. And not even talking about the branches or extra sub spaces ^^

If you kept 2 hunting teams, and 2 side accounts, that would still only make 20 lioness in total.
Enough for some color diversity, without being to much for players who have jobs or school.

EDIT: also, I don't understand you first sentence ...



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Edited on 10/11/13 by Nynke2 (#13009)

Naestie (#21729)

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2013-11-11 22:44:09
huh how am i contradicting myself? I am supporting this idea?



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Nynke {6 special
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2013-11-12 05:46:14
Oooooo sorry lol I misunderstood!

I toughed you meant you didn't support because I didn't really understood your first sentence.



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2013-11-16 05:34:25
Support! ^^


Not only would this make training lionesses achievable to those who don't get on very often, but it would also make food less needed on the market and provide us with better cubs as not only a profit but as future pride kings and the like. Anyone could have awesome 500-stat cubs with this idea. c:



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Nynke2 {+1200 Fiery} (#13009)

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2013-11-16 06:21:16
Mistragi, not really ;)
You can train more lions, but not the same ones, so game-wise you wouldn't gain more stats more quickly. So higher stat lions would still be just as hard to get.

But it would defiantly make the game more attractive for people who can't get on often ;)



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