Posted by More Trading Centre upgrades! [120+ SUPPORTS!]

Shepard (Sikia) (#35800)

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2014-09-18 15:33:01
WOOHOO! I can't believe we've reached 100 supports in just 3 days! Thankyou SO much to all those who offered criticism, suggestions, and most importantly, everyone that clicked that button at the bottom!

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Okay, so after some thought, I decided to revamp this just a touch following Thalath's (#41669) suggestion. Since the new upgrades to the trading centre, scams are now practically impossible.



AS A SELLER

What I'm proposing is simply a re-vamp to the way the trading centre works. It will make things a whole lot more straightforward when you're asking for something specific.

As it stands, you can still make offers on trades, even when it isn't specified. You can also offer whatever you want, even when a trader has stated something specific.

As a trader, when creating a trade, there would be a series of boxes to check or not check. If you didn't check ANY boxes, there would only be an option to BUYOUT the trade:

[x] Take offers

[ ] Allow lion / lioness offers
(This option could be expanded to be more specific)
[ ] Allow item offers (This option could be expanded to be more specific)
[x] Allow SILVER Beetle offers
[ ] Allow GOLD Beetle offers


You would also be able to specify a MINIMUM offer. For example, if you are seeking food, you could set a minimum offer of 10 items, or if you're looking at selling an item for GB, but open to SB offers, you could set a minimum amount of SB you would accept for the item ETC



AS A BUYER

If this is implemented, we might also be able to search for trades based on what the trader is seeking. For example we could search for trades that are seeking a lion / lioness in exchange for something.

You would also be able to search items by category, rather than have every single item listed in a drop down box. Have you ever tried searching for food without going through pages and pages? You have to search every carcass in the list until you get a hit! The hoard is already separated by categories, so why not the trading centre as well? Going with this suggestion, you'd be able to search for 'food' or 'toys' or 'decor' ETC.

Perhaps there would also be the ability to exclude certain items you are seeking OR seeking to trade to someone, from the search? IE if you are searching for food, you could exclude trades that contain rat and gerbil carcasses. OR if you searched for trades where the seller is SEEKING food, you could exclude trades of SB. Does that make sense?




This is BY NO MEANS a whinging complaint to how things currently are, its simply about improving the system and streamlining it even further. The Trading Centre is functioning GREAT and the work that's been done on it has been FANTASTIC (thanks for the whole information BTW!). This is a suggestion, not a 'fix this crap naooo' discussion.

Again, thanks to Thalath (#41669) for this great suggestion : To go even further, you could also make it so you can disallow offers of lions, items, or GB as well.

Any suggestions are WELCOME!



This suggestion has 129 supports and 0 NO supports.



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Edited on 28/09/14 by Shepard (Sikia) (#35800)

laura. (#36409)

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Posted on
2014-09-18 22:10:40
But the poor people who can only afford the SB equivalent?



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Cat (#5265)

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Posted on
2014-09-18 22:11:51
Support from Cat



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. j a n n i s . (#34236)

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Posted on
2014-09-18 22:49:35
Support! Awesome Idea.



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Skulleh[LDC][LL] (#23147)

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2014-09-19 14:30:31
@Tialura, then buy GB with the SB? That simple, really. .-. A lot pf people, myself included, would much rather have GB than a bunch of SB. GB can get you more stuff and can buy Oasis items and such. SB cannot.

Anyways, support from me! :3



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Kopa (#37882)

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2014-09-20 18:15:48
Someone offered 38SB on my GMO cow, I was so close to clicking accept when I looked again and noticed it said SB not GB! SUPPORT!!!



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Tantric Trances (#37412)

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2014-09-20 18:33:30
No support mainly for the 'lowballing' thing as that is a personal preference for many different people. If you think someone's offer is that minimal then just reject it and move on. You don't need forced restrictions on trades especially if you have something that states Buyout and then something like 'Offer what you think if fair' people are going to offer something that you may not like because they don't know what you want with that type of description.

Now with the mistaking SB for GB. I get it, however with the new icons, restrictions aren't needed. It's making it easier already. Why force someone who wants something you're trading for away simply because they want to offer something like a rare decor, or SB for a lion worth GB when they could possibly have the calculated equivalent or something you may like? Again if the offer is too low then reject it. That's what the reject button is there for.



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Axel (#6627)

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2014-09-20 18:52:16
I dont support for the reason that SB needs to be filtered out of the game and I am afraid that everyone would want only GB for their items and lions, restricting SB payments. We need SB sinks and we should not let SB itself get 'discriminated' in TC.

While one can buy GB for SB, sadly GB trades are not there 24/7. So maybe someone has the price in SB, but nobody can give them GB for it. And there is a limit in their case because they need to offer in time, while you -as the seller- can have the time in the world to exchange it for GB.

Also, for reasons stated by Klixxish.

People need to learn to NOT rush. Dont accept everything the moment you see it. Pay attention. I was never scammed because I was double and triple checking my trades at all times. The game cannot do all the work for you.



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Edited on 21/09/14 by Axel (#6627)

Shepard (Sikia) (#35800)

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2014-09-20 20:05:43
Hey guys, I've revamped this to be in line with Thalath's (#41669) suggestion and added a bit more of a visual example. It's no longer just about trade protection, so take a look. Feedback is IMPORTANT and most certainly welcome!



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2014-09-20 20:16:35
Still no support from me for the reasons above. Too many restrictions, and we already have a reject button and I can see this being heavily abused.



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Shepard (Sikia) (#35800)

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2014-09-20 20:21:52
No worries, I can respect that, as well as the reasons above.

How would it be able to be abused? (Maybe there's a solution)



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Edited on 21/09/14 by Sikia (ArmanaTLK) (#35800)

Axel (#6627)

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Posted on
2014-09-20 20:30:44
Still no support. My reasons stay.
And as people mentioned, you can easily reject offers if you dont like it.



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Shepard (Sikia) (#35800)

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2014-09-20 20:45:40
No worries. The reason I updated was because there was a little bit of anti-discrimination against SB haha. I figured, well if we're getting into specifics, why not make it about -everything-, since if people want to reject SB offers, they're going to do that whether this suggestion is implemented or not.



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Axel (#6627)

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2014-09-20 21:03:12
But people still can and will choose to not receive SB offers. A few months ago there was a sudden influx of 'GB only' trades. I am afraid it would only get worse...

Which is the problem. Seeing the current economy SB should never be blocked. We need it out of the system, not keep it in. One way it can be done is by accepting it in a trade, especially if the amount is acceptable or better than any other offer.

Or what if someone offers something that you did not expect and you didnt even realize that you forgot about it? Like a decor you were looking for for a while, or a lion that is just too good to refuse? Surprise offers would never happen in this case.

This would restrict player to player interactions on the market. And I personally dont like it.



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Nny (#257)

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2014-09-21 10:54:51
What if, and I don't know if anyone else stated this, instead of this system, there was simply a conformation window thing.

Like:

"Are you sure you want to exchange -Insert whatever here- for Object/Lion/X amount of SB/GB?"

And maybe have it go twice, like with a transfer?



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Shepard (Sikia) (#35800)

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2014-09-22 11:29:34
^ This isn't just about buyer protection now (plus I've already seen that suggestion)



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