There is indeed, and I am honestly extremely upset now

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Is that thread still up?
IF that is true, then I am deeply upset now as well -.-!!
They could have AT LEAST make the lowest interaction mood increase by 10%.
There is NOTHING different than we have had it before, especially since I NEVER got 5% only before, when it was only 5% drop per day.

I find it extremly upsetting that people who want to stay Neutral are, basically, fucked v.v....
They won't get any kind of chance for a mood boost of 10%, like Evil and Good, and can't even negate the 10% by using the interaction and not fearing of getting low rolled below 10%!
So, we aren't just getting forced to put specific personalities onto our lions, if we want to make sure we get the 10% boost to negate the 10% per day, no but also are forced to USE toys now.
Again, this will be very hard for newbies.

I also find it a bit "meh", that it just gets "assumed" you use the "Feed All/Play All" option, which costs you 5GB per month, if you have a bigger pride -_-....
Some people don't want to pay 5GB every 30 days.
Currently I could buy that tool for 90 days, but I am clinging onto the GBs, for studdings and possible early retirements.
Though, even if I would have had 100k of GBs, I still would not use that tool, simply because it apparently spares me a few clicks only and if I would haveto use toys ANYWAY at one point to make sure they won't run away, then it is all pointless.


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EDIT: Found the possible thread, I think?
http://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=304429202461

Sorry, Xylax... but those answers make me deeply disappointed and not just upset.

Toys main use is for playing?
Yeah right... what about the already mentioned July event?
And the nesting???

Just to make it clear:

The July event demands 2 toys per 30 minutes from us, which makes 4 toys per hour.

Since we have a 24h day, it would make 96 toys per day, IF you would be able to even pull that off, but still even if you would only manage to play 8h = 32 toys already.

July has 31 days, well 96 x 31 = 2976 toys for the WHOLE event.

With 8h per day, you would still pay 992 toys!

And let's be honest... the fireflies you get out of that forest are a VERY small amount, so you have to hoard like hell to get at least a couple of fireflies to be able to buy stuff you want from the shop AND trying to get a special event lioness.

It doesn't help that you bring MORE toys into the game, since you won't find them in explore more, due to the fact that there are many more encounters than just simply toys = Karma, Event, random nonsense and only have 100% of energy which refill is slow, unless you - of course again - spend GB on it.
Not to mention the energy you lose, if you try to gain money from studding.
Thusly slimming down the chances of stumbling over toys.

Plus, a lot more toys are now needed for NESTING, like feathers.
I cannot use them for mood, if I want to breed and not waste studding money, because the cubs died and that is already a shitty decision to make, not challenging, just annoying and frustrating.

And with all that, you hardly can sell toys anymore, if you want to stock up for July, use stuff for nesting and let alone now being forced to use toys, if you are low rolled on the interaction button.

What is so bad about just keeping the interaction button at 10%?!
It was never being 5%, when we had the 5% drop per day.
So, just NOT making it fall below 10% would be fine and probably all that people are asking for.
Plus, people who have neutral lions, as mentioned above, won't get ANY kind of buff to negate that drop, but with making it 10% then it would give them at least a chance to do so and users who don't really want to participate anyway.


Making this game more "challenging" is wrong, you are making it more and more time consuming and a lot of people cannot Explore for x-couple of times per day, simply because we have lifes outside of LD and at one point will have to choose to either drop LD, because you cannot give it the time it needs or RL.
And I can assure you that I would have to choose RL, even though I have grown attached to LD - especially due to the fact that members here gift each other stuff, without wanting your soul for it (yet).

Plus, mindless clicking...
Am I not mindlessly clicking, if I choose a toy and just click away on it??

I already said something about the Feed All / Play All nonsense.
Do you really want to hint that we should pay 5GB and just accept that the tool is messing with the inventory of ours, just because a low mood drop???

Sorry, for my long text and rant ... but I am surely and utterly disappointed now.
Sad, that such a nice feature wasn't thought out better, but causes more frustration than it is needed for some users.

Again: I am not against the feature, it may be a nice idea, but not when it is handled like that and with such bad consequences for people who just don't want to pick a personality or just stay neutral.

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In that case, I have to agree with Minimanta and Shichibi. Sorry if my English is hard to understand, but I really want to try to explain it.

To be honestly, I find it actually disappointing to expect us that we'd use the "Feed All, Play All" feature. It'd mean that you're focused to either pay 5 GB monthly for this or put a lot time in this game to get all the toys for lionesses for play with. OR you have to spend SB to get the toys if you're not getting enough for your lions. And that costs money, too.
So in the end, you either have to put A LOT of time in the game OR pay MONEY (maybe eben real money?) to keep all lions happy.

The whole thing is really complicated if you think that carefully and I'm sure, newbies won't have an easy start here. I tried to start with Evil, but howsoever I changed to neutral - at least until there's some good changes and fixes to the personalities so I might eventually start to like it.

Well, I got really confused in the last days when I came to an unhappy lioness and thought to myself, "Wait, didn't I just interact with you yesterday? Why do you have to complain again then?" There should be no punishment for the neutral users, but as I read on the forum, it kind of is. (If I get it correctly)
I just went through all my adult lionesses and played with them all, the one was even in need of a toy so she won't run away tomorrow. But whatever, where would be the point in that? Some of them will become unhappy tomorrow and I'll have to use lots of toys again anyway -shrugs-

I'm actually surprised to see Mini being the only one on that thread right now. I can see already more and more people coming, complaining about that mood decrease and all. I don't mean to be rude, but that's definitely a sign that something of the last update needs some work and fixes. If not wanting to give us an increase of mood daily, at least give us something to balance it out then. More items and toys - it kinda sounds money-wasting, but hopefully I'm wrong ;-;

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The 10% mood drop from 5% before has been a killer for me as well. I think this will be fun eventually but that sudden mood drop was awful. I am using way more toys. I did see that choosing "loner" in the neutral lion category gave the pride a 5% rise so that's what I did for now. I haven't changed any of my lionesses yet since I'm still not clear what all this is doing. At least choosing loner temporarily has made the drop go back to the 5% it was before this release while I try to figure out what I'm doing.

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Most players won't spend 8 hours per day on Lioden only to get enough toys for their lionesses. Sim-games should not be that time consuming.
You may lose lots of players with this new mood drop. Because we really don't want to spend our whole life on the game, even if we're addicted players.

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Why would you just assume that everyone with a large pride uses feed all play all? I can't afford to buy GB with my hard earned money. And some recent money problems and debts have popped up, so I can afford GB even less. I'm sorry, but that response just really dissappinted me...

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I love the masks, it'd be cool if they were decor

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Indeed, assuming we should pay real money on a supposedely free-to-play isn't a thing you should do. GB things are supposed to be unnecessary luxuries, not necessary things.

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This sounds very interesting

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This is great! Can't wait to see the next update!

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