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cake πŸ’« (#53239)

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2016-10-14 07:47:40
[ a deformed foot which is twisted so that the sole cannot be placed flat on the ground. ] - Club foot at wikipedia - aka Congenital Talipes Equinovarus



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Appears?: At birth. Cub has a club foot (probably just one, front foot so it can be more easily seen. Maybe club foot right and club foot left could be two separate mutations?)
Affects gameplay?: Yes. A lioness cannot hunt, and a lion cannot patrol or become king. A cub may be able to train but have a high rate of failure (higher than normal). A lioness could still be a broodmother.
Lethal: No.
Alternate name: Talipes Equinovarus

Possibility:
A lioness is able to hunt, but she has a high failure rate alone and will drag the success rate of a trained team down. This doesn't mean she can't successfully bring in food, but the chances are far smaller.
A sub male can patrol, but instead of having 10 spaces available to him, he can only patrol 5 spaces.
A club foot male can become king, but he has a high strength penalty, and grabbing, pounding and kicking would fail more in battles.

It can happen to animals as well as humans. I have several favourites of a cat on flickr that has a twisted front paw (her name is Dizzy and she's very cute) that can ambulate mostly normally and do things cats can do.

NEW - Mockups (they're bad, but I'm not a great artist)
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Edited on 30/03/22 @ 19:39:11 by cake πŸ’« (#53239)

cake πŸ’« (#53239)

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Posted on
2017-02-12 02:54:32
It's not really harmful either it's just a slightly squashed foot?



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bobblobthing (#3948)

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Posted on
2017-02-18 13:40:45
'slightly'



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Emerald (#87312)

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Posted on
2017-06-17 17:54:29
Realistically speaking, if a lioness were to hunt with a clubfoot, their chance of success would be so low (if they didn't have accomplices, that is) that it's practically next to nothing so they might as well not be able to hunt. But otherwise, support.



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Posted on
2017-07-15 07:22:10
My brother's kitten has a club foot, as well as my grandma's dog, but they're still so cute.



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Posted on
2017-10-27 13:11:38
i adore this!! you've got my support!



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JokerCatNLM (#125339)

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Posted on
2017-11-04 14:05:53
If this does get added I think a few things should be added onto it.
For example cubs with this shouldn't reach adulthood, or if they do it should be rare. The reason being this condition, though not painful for babies, typically becomes painful for adults. This is because it also comes with other issues, tendons and ligaments are typically tight.
The cub should reach adolescents but after that there would be messages saying how the cub is now struggling to walk, seems in pain and is miserable. Eventually the cub would struggle with walking to the point where it couldn't walk, eventually the cub would stop eating and walking and then passaway.

Or maybe in a slightly cruel twist of fate, the mother would eat the deformed cub.

If it does reach adulthood it should be genetic since in humans the odds of it passing on are one in 35. The lioness or lion also shouldn't hunt, since it would make it difficult to move about and would most likely become painful after awhile.

I have no issue with it being in game but I hope it's done tastefully and is researched a bit first.



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Princess (#85715)

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2018-04-06 13:57:47
I absolutely LOVE how you included the art for what it would look like!! Made me pledge my full support <3



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✨ Periwinkle ✨ (#154172)

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Posted on
2018-09-28 21:20:06
I like this idea! Maybe there should be a chance where as a cub, there's a chance of it dying because a predator was nearby and it struggled to get away and was caught and killed, or injured.
Example
(After Rollover)

Your cub passed away last night due to difficulty getting away from a predator.




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Belia (#175839)

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2019-07-17 16:05:48
I have a lot of experience with domestic cats with club feet irl, so I'll provide some further info on this mutation. For starters, "club foot" is just an umbrella term given to any foot that is bent/twisted at an angle, despite the cause. So some club feet may be caused by genetics, some by environment, some from overcrowding in the uterus, etc.

Besides inbreeding, the most common cause of club feet in cats is called twisted leg syndrome. TLS is a mutation that is caused by overcrowding in the womb. Cats especially are prone to this due to having multiple offspring at once. It's one of the more common special needs I come across. The limb(s) cannot develop properly and end up twisted. Sometimes it's only the foot, sometimes it's the whole leg. Sometimes the bones and ligaments are extremely deformed, sometimes they are not.

Here is a cat I had with an example of a classic club foot. Unknown cause, but suspected inbreeding.

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The foot was not a problem for him. It took him a little longer to learn but he adjusted well. The part of the club foot that he walked on grew callouses like the bottom of a foot, and was not painful. The deformed leg was shorter than the other legs, so he learned to hold the club foot up when he needed to balance. He did get it hooked on things from time to time, but eventually learned to back himself up to unhook himself. And yes, he was leash trained. Dude was adventurous AF.

Here is an xray of another cat I had with the same deformity (sorry it's a shitty pic of it ;0; but you can still see the awkward angle and some of the foot) Hers was caused by overcrowding.

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Here was a newborn kitten with two club feet. Again, caused by overcrowding.

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Deformed limbs like these ones are typically not painful. Their bodies build muscle ro accommodate and they learn how to maneuver themselves in the most efficient way. Within the first 6 months, cats like this can usually be able to move like any other cat. In fact, I had a cat whose only back leg was clubbed, and she was able to keep up with her foster siblings. Her front arms became super buff tho. She looked like a bulldog lol.

In a lion pride I think that if it's just one foot affected, they can definitely live to adulthood. They would have to be protected though, and shouldn't be able to hunt or be kinged. The only possinle health risk they have is a bit of a higher chance of developing arthritis or hip problems due to strain and imbalance.



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Beastiewoof (#190599)

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Posted on
2020-02-28 06:11:12
A horse at my school actually has a club foot, but it might have been from an injury and not from birth, but we aren't sure. She's doing fine actually and can run and walk, kinda. But it's probably different with lions and horses, but all i know is it doesn't affect her TOO heavily, i mean it does affect her but it's not the complete worst thing



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Sharturnet46 (#200051)

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Posted on
2020-06-02 21:35:26
I love this idea!



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Posted on
2023-04-18 21:46:08
i was born with club feet! I had reconstructive surgery in my toddler years- but i still have reprocusions to this dy in terms of balance, pain and general overall walking! i like the idea and I support it so I can have a lion that I could relate too



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2023-08-28 06:17:06
I support! I love the idea!



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