Posted by Hide a mutation

⛧August⛧ (#93898)

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2017-05-03 01:22:29
Okay so I know there are a lot of you out there who have a beautiful lion with a mutation that you love and you have the best décor for them, but lo and behold, the décor hasn't been updated for the certain mutation and it's either somewhere on the lion it shouldn't be or floating in midair. Alternatively, you may have designed or bred the best looking lion you've ever had, maybe it's design is based on something else or it shows off that one marking you love so much, but it has a mutation that hides the marking or ruins the design. For instance, piebald is a sought after mutation and it passes down, so pretty much anyone can get one just by breeding to pie studs. That means a lot of players have the mutation and there are cases where it covers a good part of the lion. Now let me go on a tangent for a little while here so I can show you why I want this feature.

This is Toony. I really wanted to king him.
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I bought him from a player who still has his rolled king and bred him using his rolled king and an NCL. He had one of the 7 'Z' golden bases and his only marking was Brown Shroud. Now cubs like that don't ever get a chance. They're either sent off to the Giving Tree where someone else will kill/preserve/chase them so that they are no longer in the game, or they're killed/preserved/chased by the players who breed them which yields the same result. Maybe it's just me, but I love the fact of a player who still owns their rolled king finding out that one of their king's sons is now a king. This is one reason I want this suggestion to be considered.

This is what Toony will soon look like.
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It's a loving homage to the Rubber Hose style (a.k.a Old Disney style or 30s style, as I've also heard it called.) which was the main animation style of the 1930s in America. The multiple markings give him a white-ish face which, of course, is supposed to be the white face that nearly all animal characters had. Then the White Trotters marking is supposed to be the white gloves that a lot of the characters wore. Being the animation nut that I am, I love the idea of a king based on old style animation. I'm almost positive that no one has done that yet. This is the second reason.

This is what Toony would look like with any kind of piebald.
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In every case, the original design is destroyed by the piebald. The white face and gloves idea is overshadowed by white nearly everywhere on the body and every piebald makes the nose pink in some way, which goes against the design in a different way. He's supposed to be exclusively black and white, so that he looks as if a cartoon character from the 1930s jumped out of his frame and is living in a colorful world. Any ounce of color in his genetics ruins the illusion.

I know what you may be thinking. Just don't buy a piebald lion. Just don't make him piebald. Just king someone else. Just wait to have a piebald king.

1. I already have, I bought him before I bought Toony.
2. I can't just let a male pie be a sub-male. 4 GB is way too much to pay for a sub-male.
3. I've spent 6 GB on Toony so far. I will have used 30 GB after I'm done. That is not an option.
4. I can't keep my side frozen forever. At some point I'll be kicked out of clans for being inactive.
-I am a part of the Hard Mode clan on my side. I can't join on my main, I don't qualify here.

Now back to the suggestion, how will we integrate the feature? Make it an item, priced at 3-5 GB in the oasis. That way it'll be fairly rare, but not impossible to get. Not only that, make it a décor item so it can be removed if the player changes their mind. Maybe it should have somewhere around 5 uses. If you have anything to add to the suggestion please let me know. If you don't support this idea, tell me why.



This suggestion has 160 supports and 25 NO supports.



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🌀🌑Hex🌑🌀 (#289675)

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2024-04-08 09:29:08
Yeah exactly, there’s already an option to fix a mutation you don’t like and there’s also several different mutations you can choose from so if you don’t like the one you HAVE- rep with one you do like…? Or just use a high stat rep and don’t have the mutation



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#1 Ra
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Posted on
2024-04-08 09:42:14
What did you mean fix?



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🌀🌑Hex🌑🌀 (#289675)

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Posted on
2024-04-08 09:42:39
Replace it/fix it



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#1 Ra
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2024-04-08 09:50:53
But that would cost like 35gb, and having the mut can give mutation passes so I don't want to delete it


And just replacing it might not work on some lions because they simply don't have a clone^^



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Edited on 11/04/24 @ 10:11:39 by #1 Ra lover🪰™ (#378540)

🌀🌑Hex🌑🌀 (#289675)

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2024-04-08 09:54:55
Then in my opinion if you don’t want to use the solution provided, you’re stuck with something you don’t like and must deal with that. Repping right after kinging costs 25, and usually a rep isn’t too expensive especially if you plan it out.



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#1 Ra
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2024-04-08 10:00:07
Not everyone on Lioden just has 25 GB laying around, especially some of the newer players who struggle getting GB, it's gonna be a hassle for them to get that much, and this decor/item could really help them, and I dont want to be stuck with something I don't want



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🌀🌑Hex🌑🌀 (#289675)

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2024-04-08 10:06:58
Then don’t get it if you don’t want it is my point. If you don’t want it, don’t like it, then don’t get it. This is nothing against you even, I’m just stating my opinion and didn’t need to try to be convinced my opinion is not valid (which is how I feel when your arguing about it with me)

So, my opinion is no this isn’t useful or necessary.



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#1 Ra
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2024-04-08 10:15:42
I never said I didn't want it, I'm saying that some mutations can look unpleasant and not look nice on a certain lion, removing the mutation can make studds go really low and cub not having mutations,but if the mutation could be hidden, it wouldn't make the stud lose value,could produce mutant cubs, and it would look pleasant.
And I did not intend to make your opinion seem invalid, I'm simply trying to prove my point.
I respect your opinion.



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🌀🌑Hex🌑🌀 (#289675)

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2024-04-08 10:18:44
‘ and I dont want to be stuck with something I don't want’

…’I don’t want’

sounds to me like you wouldn’t want it is all. But since you seem to respect my opinion now, I’m done with this conversation. I won’t be changing my mind, I don’t think this item would be worth having, and that is that.

I’ll be unsubbing in as I still feel like my opinion in not supporting just isn’t welcome, especially by someone who isn’t even running the forum. Have a lovely day <3 I’ll be taking no more part in this conversation.



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#1 Ra
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2024-04-08 10:31:17
I wouldnt want the mutation look on it is what i dont want :p

Edit: and there cant be two forums of the same suggestion and since this one was made first ive been trying to revive this idea



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Edited on 08/04/24 @ 10:33:28 by #1 Ra lover🪰™ (#378540)

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2024-04-08 10:33:04
I agree with u RA person some muts just look off on some lions and it would be nice to have the mut and hide the mut so u still have that mutation just not visable



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2024-04-08 11:00:04
I dont really agree because you can choose from the beggining what you king or rep with. The main goal of this game is achieving an aesthetic you like, which often comes with challenges. This could also be missleading, especially to newer players if your king is up for studs and people go with looks (which i often do even if im an experienced player).

I understand how you feel about mut not looking great on certain lions. However, as you can see, i hid the mut of my lion simply with a CD that i bought with gb that i had saved for a while.



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Edited on 08/04/24 @ 11:05:11 by 🍊Cerulean [G1 12.17.2021 RLC] (#284581)

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2024-04-08 11:00:04
Don't really agree with this, sorry. If you want a king that has a mutation and is able to pass that mutation, you're gonna have to put up with how that lion looks *with* the mutation. An item for this purpose just seems like it would be an unnecessary addition to the game.

I could also see it causing a lot of confusion, for newer players especially. I could see people getting a piebald cub from a king that had it's mutation "hidden" and then freaking out thinking random piebalds were possible. Same goes with any passable mutation a king would have that was "hidden."

If you cannot afford the decor for a mutation that needs custom decor, either A) don't decorate the lion B) save up for the custom decor C) don't king a lion that needs custom decor if you know you cannot afford it.



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#1 Ra
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2024-04-09 07:08:06
Congrats on 150 supports



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Trashy [G3 Ice
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Posted on
2024-04-25 04:54:15
Pleeeassee it's so hard to put decor on primals



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