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 bwa 🦑 mott rose/sunrise (#118913) Total Chad View Forum Posts  Posted on 2018-01-16 00:22:45 |
For a mutation: What if there is a female lion, but the mane is fuller like any regular male, unlike the slight manes that are in the game right now! I did some research and some articles say that when lionesses get manes sometimes they act more like males! The mutation appears at the 1 year as a light mane and grows into a full mane like males as suggested by The Dirt King (#113702) in the first comment! The effects could be that she could be a broodmother, go on patrols, and hunt(uncertain about the hunting part still) but a downside would be that she is infertile and chasteberries do not work!(suggested by The Dirt King (#113702) The infertile part would make the mutation harder to pass. The patrolling and hunting would make the mutation actually useful for a change (sorry but I mean like we should have at least one useful mutation right?) Also maybe the mutation could be genetic and it would be more passable with males that have CERTAIN BREEDING ONLY MANE TYPES! (this would make manes useful also!) If they had manes and had some cubs maybe their cubs could have a higher survival rate because lionesses with manes actually help scare off some predators! (see resource 3) Sorry if this was already suggested but I spent lots of time and effort coming up with this and typing it all out! This idea might be hard on Xylax and the other team members but I think it would be really nice to have a mutation that does something more than kinda just sit there :P (I know not all mutations are like this but still!) Rescources: (they mostly say the same thing but still! You may research some more and comment what you think! 1-https://www.newscientist.com/article/2106866-five-wild-lionesses-grow-a-mane-and-start-acting-like-males/ 2-https://www.sciencealert.com/these-five-lionesses-have-grown-manes-and-now-they-re-starting-to-act-like-males 3-https://www.sciencealert.com/why-do-these-lionesses-in-botswana-have-manes 4-https://www.snopes.com/lionesses-grow-manes/ If you do not support i would like to hear why so then I can improve this >~< |
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dirt.exe (#113702)
Phoenix View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 00:41:14 |
I don't really agree with the 1-3 years rollover thing as the mutation would be there from birth and the mane would grow like any other lion's. It could, perhaps, show up as a teenager with a smol mane like the adol male and be a full mane as an adult.  0 players like this post! Like? |
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bwa 🦑 mott rose/sunrise (#118913) Total Chad View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 00:42:12 |
hmm yeah that would make more sense! I will change that and credit you 0 players like this post! Like? |
Enitan [HM] (#18630)
Protector View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 00:45:16 |
There are already multiple maned lioness mutations. You can find them here. Mane Feathery:  Mane Fluffy:  Mane Frizzy:  Mane Fuzzy:  Mane Ruffled:  Mane Scruffy:  Mane Shaggy:  Mane Silky:  Mane Whiskered:  0 players like this post! Like? |
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phantomknights (#120747)
Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 00:47:27 |
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bwa 🦑 mott rose/sunrise (#118913) Total Chad View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 00:48:02 |
Tau [HM | Natural] (#18630) -Yes I know that! In Xylax's mutation ideas post it has the thing of more maned lionesses and I think that if we add one that has some use though it will make the popularity of a mane mutation higher, because right now, they are not very popular and they make no effect in game as they do in life. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 16/01/18 @ 00:49:33 by drawolfy『SS Reindeer』 (#118913) |
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bwa 🦑 mott rose/sunrise (#118913) Total Chad View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 00:50:26 |
Yew (#120747) -Thank you very much! That is also why i said it would be some more work for Xy and the team :P I think the certain manes having more effect on having a mutation would only make it like a Vlf would if it were to go through! 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Enitan [HM] (#18630)
Protector View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 01:00:34 |
While it's an interesting idea, I think it's probably not a good idea to implement. One, it would be a lot of coding. Two, since you can't king a female, it seems like having a patrolling female is unlikely and would cause issues. Three, I think they've been avoiding having mutations give advantages (other than being passed on) to avoid people feeling like they have to have a mutation to do well at the game. That's why Primal kings work just like normal kings, other than the cosmetic effect. I think the only mutations that have "game changing" effects are Blind & Eyeless (can't hunt, etc.) and Leopon (males are sterile), other than Lethals, of course, which die well before maturity. I think Dwarfism has a slight knock to stats (I just looked it up and it's 50% less agility) but considering you can bring it up easily with patrolling or hunting that's not really a "game changer". I'm all for additional mane mutations (that would be pretty interesting to see), but I don't really think that a mane mutation should have a game changing effect. Again, that's just my two cents and opinion for what it is worth. I just feel it's more fair not to have mutations give advantages since in Nature they very rarely (if ever) do. At least not the kind of mutations Lioden has. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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dirt.exe (#113702)
Phoenix View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 01:10:12 |
Another thought from me and a friend~ how about instead of not being a broodmother, they're infertile and can (maybe) patrol? The mane is caused by testosterone, making them more male-like. It could also make them super protective, probably making them a great broodmother. But yeah - just our thoughts. ;3 0 players like this post! Like? |
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bwa 🦑 mott rose/sunrise (#118913) Total Chad View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 01:11:43 |
Tau [HM | Natural] (#18630)- I know it would be lots of coding, I think it would be nice to have some more power on a females side though because I know that females can lead prides in life, so why can we make lioden a bit more realistic and maybe add some masculine female lioness, I think that mutations should have a more effect in game because it would make it more fun and give us more of a reason to enjoy it more! I respect your opinion though. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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bwa 🦑 mott rose/sunrise (#118913) Total Chad View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 01:12:30 |
The Dirt King (#113702) - That is quite reasonable! I will change that and credit you again :P thanks so much! 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Enitan [HM] (#18630)
Protector View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 01:25:39 |
Honestly, and I'm not meaning to argue, but if you want a 'female' to lead the pride, why not use Lab Test Frog? You get the same effect visually and you can RP or write whatever pleases you? And no one "leads" prides in the wild. The male protects the area, but he isn't "in charge". He's big enough he can bully his way to food, but even that isn't always. Sometimes the females will go after males too! In real life, prides are actually normally just related, loosely associated females with transient males (since males normally hold the territory a while and then get displaced eventually by younger, more fit males) that sometimes hunt and often raise their cubs together. There isn't really a hierarchy in the sense of the more rigid ones that animals like hyenas and horses have. While Lioden has a lot of realistic features (and I do enjoy the game a ton), the way the prides are run are definitely not based on Nature at all.  And in your pride, your females can have as much or as little power as you want. That's one of the fun things about the game for me; that the way it's done the players have a lot of freedom to control their pride however they want. Especially now with the Lab Test Frog that pretty much puts a female in charge; granted, she can still be at stud (I assume for fairness in game mechanics) or give birth directly (again, I assume so someone's king isn't out of commission three days on a nest), but otherwise, they have all the female features.Basically, I don't think it's necessary to have a mutation to have "Female power" in the pride. But again, just me.  Did you have a particular mane effect you were looking for? Since most of the maned lionesses you linked looked either "Mane Shaggy" or "Mane Feathery" to me. At least in terms of appearance. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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dirt.exe (#113702)
Phoenix View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 01:31:05 |
*CRASHES IN* YOOOOOOO WHAT IF CHASTBERRIES DONT WORK SO YOU CANT BREED HER AT ALL? I mean that one item that permanently changes fertility could do stuff but yeah. It'd make the mutation rarer because it takes more effort to lion scrote breed them... That's all I'm done lol 0 players like this post! Like? |
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bwa 🦑 mott rose/sunrise (#118913) Total Chad View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 01:35:26 |
Tau [HM | Natural] (#18630) -It isn't that I would want a female to lead my pride(though I would be absolutely fine) its the fact that some people would like to see a mutation that could maybe help out in the game! Most of the mutations that have effects in the game are ones that make it less useful. This was just an idea that I thought would fit perfectly for having an effect in the game. Also, are your fingers ok after typing so many responses?  0 players like this post! Like? |
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bwa 🦑 mott rose/sunrise (#118913) Total Chad View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 01:36:07 |
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Enitan [HM] (#18630)
Protector View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-01-16 01:41:24 |
@drawolfy I type for a living. So I have strong finger muscles. On the topic, I don't feel mutations should give an advantage. The lionesses in your links don't really have any advantages over other lions; other than being a bit more "masculine", they don't hunt better or have better babies. They do the things "males do", but they can't actually make cubs (it seems a lot of them are infertile or at least very low fertility?). Most of the mutations likely wouldn't even survive. Dwarves certainly wouldn't! A tiny lion with stubby legs? How would it hunt or protect itself from other predators or even other lions? I don't think even Primals would have an advantage. They'd be strong, but they would likely be slower and have a lot more trouble catching prey. I believe that's why Saber-toothed Cats and similar ancient predators went extinct; global changes and the fact they were so specialized for very specific prey that when that prey got more scarce, they died off. I digress though. Sorry, I like to chat and have discussions. Hopefully I haven't come across as rude or anything; I'm really not meaning to. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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