Posted by -ADDED TO THE GAME-Change Cloudburst Genetics

Camo {Side} (#26164)

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Posted on
2018-06-10 06:38:36
After having come back from a long hiatus, I was interested in seeing the new bases. Cloudburst was one of the few that caught my eye. I thought it was pretty straightforward to breed a Cloudburst but that’s not the case for this base. I believe it’s a combination base (correct me if I’m wrong), and can only be bred during the wet season. That sounds pretty “special” to me. Besides, if this base was so common to begin with then there’d be more than two pages worth of lions having this base. Cloudburst behaves much like special bases do already. It’s hard to obtain, and once you have it it is still hard to breed for since you’re restricted to just the wet season.

Make Cloudburst a black medium countershaded special base. Please let me know your thoughts, no matter if you support or not. Thank you!

TL;DR - change rarity category of Cloudburst base from Common to Special



This suggestion has 149 supports and 7 NO supports.



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Edited on 18/06/18 @ 13:40:16 by Camo {Side} (#26164)

Phantom StarsX (#92256)

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Posted on
2018-08-24 13:55:36
In order to pass a cloudburst however, you need to breed a cloudburst to either one of its base requirements or another cloudburst. it is the same with all other combos, because once you have a cloudburst you can't just breed it to anything to get another. It is different then other special bases but i think combos, even bred with common bases should be either rare or special. Uncommon is bases that can be bought with the base changer so certainly not.
Rare base is breed only, and while that would make sense, I feel like since combos are actually harder to breed then special, it should at least be considered a special base. Not to mention "Rares" are kinda random, appearing in pairings that include uncommon and special.

A special base requires one parent with the base to pass but can be mass bred, combos could only be mass bred to the same base or one of its base parents, and sure someone may have Cloudburst (or maltese, korat, chartuex) and a ton of albinos (common) but the weather requirements prevent it from being too mass bred.
That's why it makes sense to me that they should be special bases.

and speaking of rarity... Cloudburst specifically has 3 pages worth of lions that have the base.... korat has 20 pages of pride members.



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Edited on 24/08/18 @ 14:03:53 by Phantom StarsX (#92256)

Icarus (#97414)

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Posted on
2018-08-24 14:05:59
I think rare would make the most logical sense, since to breed a cloudburst you aren't having to deal with the whole "special" special classification aspect. This is where I messed up in my previous post, my bad.
Looking at it, when you breed either uncommon X uncommon or rare X uncommon, there doesn't seem to be a chance of producing a special base. To change Cloudburst to a special base would be messing with the generational rarities. That's a bit much.
I pulled the pairing options from the official wiki.
Yes, I disagree with it being common. No, I don't agree with it being special.



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Phantom StarsX (#92256)

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Posted on
2018-08-24 14:10:40
I suppose its true there isn't a special base for it to be produced from, it uses uncommon&rare...
This was of course suggested before the category split, I can agree with it being a rare base, since there isn't a genetic special to produce it.



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Kiri[10k Dawn Mott
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2019-05-22 19:40:43
It should be at the very least uncommon or rare



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Jassy Side
{G2ClnEbTrplRosPie} (#56649)

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Posted on
2019-06-18 16:38:02
I 100% support Cloudburst being changed to "rare" rather than "common." There are some good points about why it doesn't technically fall into the "special" category, but the added complexity of it being a seasonal chance plus the fact that it's a combo base should definitely place it into the "rare" pool. I kinda facepalmed when I finally bred ONE Cloudburst girl after a year of constantly trying only to suddenly realize she was a "common" lmao! I knew the requirements and the slim chances of breeding one, so I never once noticed that little last word in the base genetics until I managed to pop one out.



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Blackthorn (#5838)

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2019-06-18 16:51:33
I don't know if its been pointed out yet, but Cloudburst and Nadir are literally the only combo bases that aren't a special base in their genetics. To me it feels weird that they aren't at least considered rare or uncommon instead.



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C̡om̵e̕t|̶G4
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Posted on
2021-02-21 23:10:16
Throwing in my support + the forum post I made the MODs suggested I bring here.

This is something I've thought about a lot and today decided to post about. I believe Cloudburst should be a 'Special' base. There, I said it! Hear me out though, out of 79 cubs I had born between my Main Acc (Cloudburst King) and my Side Acc (Albino King) to factor lionesses, only five were Cloudbursts, GAH!

KIDDING! Zero, zero were Cloudbursts.

The special circumstances of the base's creation combined with the fact you can't just mass breed NCL's to make more of the base like you can do with other special bases (Ice and Unholy come to mind) PLUS the considerably low pass/creation rate it has to be begin with more than qualify it to be classed as 'Special.'

FURTHER! I believe it would make more sense genetically speaking for a base as blue as Cloudburst to pass blue bases more commonly such as Korat, Maltese, and Chartreux as opposed to the endless Duns, and Browns it produces now as a common base.

And finally, I believe it makes more sense in the current blue base hierarchy to have it included with Specials such as Ice, Arctic, Hoarfrost, Snowflake and Elysian which produce mid-teir blue bases like Korat, Maltese, and Chartreux, which then in turn produce uncommon-common bases such as Dun. Given the factors that it's breed only, Wet Season only, combo restricted, and a pretty low pass rate it seems backwards that the base produces primarily Common bases. My king's markings are coordinated to look best on blue bases, I want blue cubs dangit!

tl;dr My Cloudburst king makes tater-tots because his base is considered 'Common' which I politely disagree with.

Thank you for reading!





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