Posted by Remove Leopon King Breeding Nonsense
JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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2018-09-14 07:37:13
So I wake up to the news this morning to read this:

"Leopon kings are now able to breed, finally!"

And as the owner of a Leopon King, soon to be TWO leopon Kings it made me excited. But it was followed by this:

"Only Goddess fertility females will be able to successfully breed with a hybrid king. Cubs, however, will incur some penalties that include 10% less stats, and will be born infertile. Each breeding will cost 5% extra energy for a hybrid male, too."

I don't get it. Why are Leopons being so horribly penalized, just for being able to breed? There is NO BENEFIT to breeding with them over a normal male as far as I can see (unless they're kiman and Kiman isn't that sought after), so what's the Leopon King nerf for? The only benefit you get is if he's a Kimanjano, and Kimans aren't even really worth much.

"We hope you have fun breeding your hybrid males!"

Yeah well, it might've been fun if these pointless obstacles weren't introduced for absolutely no reason. Can you just give us hybrid breeding without feeling the need to ruin any interest in it right off the bat?

Geez. Way to take one step forward and TEN steps back.



This suggestion has 337 supports and 70 NO supports.



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Edited on 14/09/18 @ 07:51:30 by King Jackass|Çɮ Solari (#103364)

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2018-09-14 14:59:06
the leopon is not producing hybrids, so all these dificulties supposely in rl don't make sense here in lioden.

they seriously need to remove the goddess requirement at least, and leave the cub's fertility up to the mom's like it always has been.

Unless they do plan on making an oasis/event item to overcome the restrictions and maybe also the penalties.



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JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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2018-09-14 15:00:46
People shouldn't have to pay to not have a hard time breeding their males like literally everyone else on lioden just 'cause they're leopons



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2018-09-14 15:02:24
So how does everyone know that leopon Kings can't pass the mutation? Staff hasn't answer that question with a yes or no yet. They just said it won't boost the pass rate.
So I'm thinking it's leopon Kings are to be treated like any other mutated king. It can be passed but it's like a 5% chance.

If staff really opened them up to breeding yet it's like a non-mutated king what's the point of infertility?

I just want a yes or no answer from the staff. Cause paying 350+ gb to king a leopon to have it be just cosmetic, seems pointless.



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JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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2018-09-14 15:05:49
Do you really think they'd tank their Leopon market by letting pon kings pass the mutation 5% of the time? 'Course they didn't do that.

If they DID im about to make crazy bank with my Sunset Pon.



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Edited on 14/09/18 @ 15:06:22 by King Jackass|Çɮ Solari (#103364)

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2018-09-14 15:13:40
It might be lower than 5%. But staff isn't answering the question directly. So I'd say that leopon Kings have got to have some sort of % to pass it. Considering they said "Leopon males do not raise chances for Leopon mutation to pass." So it doesn't raise the 5% chance that non first generation leopon females hold.



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Edited on 14/09/18 @ 15:14:33 by ☣Ghasia☣🦂 S2D💣 (#30359)

JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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2018-09-14 15:15:53
Yes, Im sure that means in general for FGPs and for other leopons. So if you paired a pon and a pon, it wouldn't matter.

Seems like a foregone conclusion that the mutation wouldn't pass from a male pon. But next I roll my main acc, we'll see.



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2018-09-14 15:19:21
Well I hope we find out soon. Before tigons explode the market and leopons are tossed aside.



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JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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2018-09-14 15:20:35
I dont think pons will be tossed. They'll just be relegated to second, kinda like dwarves. Only, Pon market wont sink because of items like Buffy scrotes.



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Wolfie 🐺 (#142778)

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2018-09-14 15:26:36
I don't get why we'd have penalties for studding to a king with cool lineart.

No chance of pon passing, no increased mot/kiman pass chance, and extra energy is wasted.

Seriously. Why?


Also, a dwarf king would have a hard time even breeding. There's no penalty for those? (C'mon. With those stubby legs he's lucky to reach.)



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GlassMountain [Main] (#47586)


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2018-09-14 15:30:38
If there is no chance of the mutation passing then having penalties at all is just plain ridiculous. Like Wolfie said, dwarves should have a difficult time breeding over hybrids. If the mutation is passable then it makes sense to have certain penalties but not necessarily the ones they have given.



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GlassMountain [Main] (#47586)


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2018-09-14 16:25:31
Also, I'm kind of curious why people are not supporting? There's (as of now) 29 no-supports but I don't see any responses with their reasoning. :o



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Wolfie 🐺 (#142778)

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2018-09-14 16:31:54
@GlassMountain

A primal might also have some problems breeding. A male lion'll grab the scruff of a female and with those extra stabby canines, the boys might run into a problem. oh whoops i bit my girlfriend and she's bleeding now.

i'm just gonna think of breeding problems for all the mutes now



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Edited on 14/09/18 @ 16:32:20 by Wolfie 🐺 (#142778)

GlassMountain [Main] (#47586)


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2018-09-14 16:34:41
@Wolfie, Pffft true true XD

But yeah I just don't understand why so many downsides to having a Leopon king ;-; I'm not spending hundreds of GB to then spend even more SB/GB just to get a darn cub out of him. A cub that will then cost even more SB/GB to breed.



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2018-09-14 16:35:06
the no-supporters are lioden owners/rulers's fans and loyal subjects that never oppose their decisions :3



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GlassMountain [Main] (#47586)


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2018-09-14 16:38:39
@Zizi, I mean, accurate probably ;-; I'd actually like to hear some of the opinions from non-supporters but no one is replying so... do they just have no reasons and are no-supporting just 'cause they feel like it??



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