Posted by Bringing Back/Ressurect Old Kings

klutz [full vit
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2019-10-31 15:37:48
I understand that this might be a controversial suggestion, but I've got a few ideas on how this would world nicely.

Why this MIGHT be a good idea?

1. It allows people to take breaks from their projects without feeling stressed about it, and they're able to continue from right where they left off. It would honestly relieve a lot of stress, and you wouldn't have to worry about needing to get a clone in order to take a break. Your overall experience of the game would be better, you can fall back and just take a break without ruining any progress you've made.

2. It might just be that you miss one of your old kings for whatever reason. I think it should definitely be possible to bring the king back! There would of course be reasonable restrictions, and fees to bypass some of the restrictions.

3. You might have a perfect lioness(s) in your pride that you want to breed with king in your dynasty. (From #87017)

If you can think of any more reasons, let me know! I'm happy to add them to the list.

How can this be added to the game in a way that would be safe for the economy?

I had a few ideas, but after talking about it with a few friends, I think this would be my best idea. Basically, it would be like normal retirement, except with an additional fee of 15 GB to bring back a dynasty king. You STILL have to pay the 10 GB forced retirement fee if your king is under 15. If you are on a retirement cooldown, you STILL have to pay the 15 retirement fee. If all these apply to you, it would cost a total of 40 GB for you to bring back an old king.

If your king is 15 years of age, there is no retirement fee, it's free. If you wanted to bring an old king back, it would only cost 15 GB, no other fees.

There are two ways that I found work best for my next idea.

When bringing back a king, I think it might be an unfair advantage to have his mutation and heritage, too. A way that we can get around that is by having a chosen heir in replacement for the king's heritage, and would replace the king's mutation too. You'd be bringing back an old king's APPEARANCE on CHOSEN HEIR'S heritage, mutation AND STATS.

Another way we can deal with this is by simply using the CHOSEN HEIR'S heritage AND STATS with the old king's APPEARANCE, and wiping the mutation if there is one from the heir cub/old king. This would ONLY happen when bringing old kings back from your dynasty. After this, you can mut rep like normal- but you'd have to pay the retirement + cooldown bypass fee.


Restrictions? These are just ideas, and do not have to be added to the game.

-When bringing back an old king, they could be aged up right to 8. 'The experience has aged your heir- he is 8 years old upon taking the throne' (Agryo #70050's way to put it) or something similar might do as well!

If you have any more ideas, again, please let me know! If you do not support this, I'd love to hear why- either in PM's or here!




This suggestion has 312 supports and 72 NO supports.



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Edited on 31/10/19 @ 15:53:11 by ✦ Lrxx [Full Vit Blazing] (#158935)

Jacimagicwhitedeer (#87017)

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2019-10-31 17:20:08
@Lrxx [Full Vit Blazing] (#158935)

ok. besides that age , what do you think of the idea?

i only put in the age so the king you bring back wouldn't die soon after you bring them back. i hope you cna understand that.



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Edited on 31/10/19 @ 17:20:18 by Jacimagicwhitedeer (#87017)

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2019-10-31 17:21:57
I'm against the keeping stats part. The king I specifically want back, has 5k+ stats. And though I would love to keep them since I worked hard for them... That wouldnt be fair to the new statties that have raised up with work.



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klutz [full-vit
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2019-10-31 17:22:25
Yeah, I am also against stats. I don’t think that’s a fair idea.



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Jacimagicwhitedeer (#87017)

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2019-10-31 17:22:59
ok.

@ Fading Angel (#81854) what did you ahve in mind for the kong's stats we bring back?



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Jacimagicwhitedeer (#87017)

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2019-10-31 17:24:41
@ Lrxx [Full Vit Blazing] (#158935) what is your diea for their stats?

also are you ok with my idea that you choose which king you bring back from the king dynasty?



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2019-10-31 17:26:13
The idea was to use the heir's stats, it's in the original post



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Jacimagicwhitedeer (#87017)

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2019-10-31 17:26:54
ok



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Jacimagicwhitedeer (#87017)

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2019-10-31 17:40:09
@ Lrxx [Full Vit Blazing] (#158935) i hope this idea gets added to the game



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klutz [full-vit
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2019-10-31 18:08:28
I hope so too! ^^ I did post my ideas about the stats in the original post. If you have any further ideas, feel free to reply to the thread here!



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Agryo [Quitting] (#70050)


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2019-10-31 18:12:47
<3

To put into perspective how bad the stats would be:

One of my old kings was on the Leaderboard when I killed him off- I think he ended up at 7.7k stats before I replaced him, near the end of his life.

7.7k stats is the sort of numbers that get's a sub on the Leaderboards even today- if I brought him back with his stats, at age 8, I could start from the beginning, as if I'd just king'd him. Go through age 8 to 16 levelling him more, probably get him to 10k stats. Let him die, king something else, then revive him again and start all over. So on and so forth.

And that's just with my old statter- my current boy, Arkay, is still in his prime- he's at 12.2k. Imagine how high he'll be when he dies- imagine starting with a brand new king at over twelve thousand stats. Imagine Moby Dick or Indra- starting out fresh at age 8 with over 35k stats. It's terrifying.

The only thing that keeps the stat market in check (barely, if even) is the fact the statters need to pace out their rolls, make sure not to let their kings die. Give them the ability to revive them and everything goes to hell- and I say that with my own statter, who I love dearly, who I'll probably bawl over if/when he dies.

I should be able to bring back his fancy-looking self... but not the outrageous stats I've beefed him up with, lol.

Full support! Especially given I spent so long bickering with you about the finer points pfft <333 You articulated things very clearly bud, props to you!



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Edited on 31/10/19 @ 18:13:09 by Agryo [Project] (#70050)

klutz [full vit
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2019-10-31 18:19:09
^^^

Exactly. I don’t think it would be fair to statters or anyone else. It would be much easier to get stats. Maybe I would have a 10k+ king lmao, it wouldn’t even take any real hard work, just reviving and time. Overall, I don’t think it’s a good idea + even if it was, I doubt it would ever be considered being added into the game.

VGJDKFKSF YEAH, thank you!’ <3



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shenanigans (#23653)


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2019-10-31 18:27:55
this is a great idea, i can't believe it hasn't been suggested / considered before! whatever the reason, i see it as a way to help increase the value of kings. i'd be much more inclined to king lions if i were able to switch between kings, even nwith the aforementioned "downsides" to keep it fair.



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Edited on 31/10/19 @ 18:28:09 by shenanigans - {Çɮ} (#23653)

klutz [full-vit
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2019-10-31 18:29:21
Yeah, I won’t lie it was pretty shocking to me cnvjsf

Thank you for the support! <3



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Jacimagicwhitedeer (#87017)

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2019-11-01 04:12:41
@ ✦ Lrxx | Clean Ebony Svelte (#152364) and Lrxx [Full Vit Blazing] (#158935)

my other idea is that you should choose which king you bring back from your king dynasty



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Agryo [Quitting] (#70050)


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2019-11-01 04:40:56
It's already a baseline of the suggestion Jaci- what would be the point if you couldn't choose? Nothing in the suggestion says it's randomized. There are a lot of kings I'd like to use, but a lot I'd rather not, and it would obviously suck to only have a chance of bringing back the king you want. ^^



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