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๐Ÿ’œ Ninque (#106221)

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2022-04-09 04:48:52

๐ŸŒฟ Bushveld Rosette Bonanza ๐ŸŒฟ
Welcome to our attempt to crack the code of newly implemented Bushveld Rosettes!

According to the information posted in April Development Update #43:
"They have a unique criteria to spawn on cubs during breedings, a criteria that no other rosettes currently have. Good luck and have fun figuring it out!"


Estimated (!) criteria based on our data spreadsheet:
At least one lion with a Green-colored base:
Bushveld, Citron, Green, Moss Agate, Murk, Olive

EDIT: Some players were able to scry Bushveld Rosettes from pairing Bushveld-based lions with lions without any additional Rosettes, currently looking into that case!
EDIT 2: The Rosette dependency theory has been debunked! It's currently unknown whether there's another requirement or not. Some players were able to scry Bushveld Rosettes after 100 attempts while others took 1000.
EDIT 3: It's been confirmed that any Green-colored base works! Yes, even that one Green!

DATA SUMMARY: 0.2% spawn chance based on sample size of 7154;
possibly separate from the spawn chance of "regular" random Rosettes



Please let us know if you got any scrying/breeding data you'd like to offer, no matter if it's successful or not!




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Edited on 14/04/22 @ 11:14:19 by ๐Ÿ’œ Ninque (#106221)

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Posted on
2022-04-09 12:36:53
500 Scrys

This stud: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=174975
(BUSHVELD base, no rosette or BUSHVELD marks)

This lioness: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794156977639
(No rosette)

S4 Onyx Rosette was the only rosette scried.



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๐Ÿ’œ Ninque (#106221)

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2022-04-09 12:45:32
Thank you!

Just did a series of scries of Bushveld x any and I did in fact get a regular Bushveld Rosette. I think it's safe to debunk the Rosette dependency theory, although there's a possibility their presence might boost the odds of spawning Bushveld Rosettes.
There's also another possibility that there might be a different factor that boosts the odds of spawning any random rosette (thank you, Tansy [G1 Pie Bush RL Clone], for pointing that out!), although that's remained unsolved for years.

The pairing that finally worked for me was Gator, a Fiery RL clone and his Bushveld queen if anyone is interested.



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Posted on
2022-04-09 12:47:26
Stud (bushveld base, no green marks or rosettes) X Lioness (no bushveld base, green marks, or rosettes, but proven to be able to produce random rosettes)
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I got an absurd number of random rosettes, which leads me to believe that perhaps the bushveld rosette chance is completely separate from the standard random rosette chance, rather than a percentage of the random rosette chance. Still, these are definitely data-throwing numbers o.o Standard random rosette chance is 2-3 in 1000.



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Posted on
2022-04-09 12:48:47
With the random rosettes, I have had my old full vit (only T2 Vitiligo) produce rosettes with lionesses with no marks at all. I'm not sure if this data helps, but I thought it was interesting.



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Sprigatito G1 Deca (#169873)

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Posted on
2022-04-09 12:56:24
Okay, here's my current notes:

Only Bushveld Bases
-100 Scries with 2 Bushvelds with Rosettes: 0 Rosettes
-200 Scries with 2 Bushveld Raffle Clones: 1 Bushveld Rosette, Slot 18, 1 OHR Slot 2
-1000 Scries with 2 Bushveld Raffle Clones (Different Clones): 1 Bushveld Rosette (Slot 2),
1 Bushveld Soft Rosette (Slot 13), 2 Doubloon Soft Rosette (Slot 1, Slot 7)
-200 Scries with 2 Bushvelds with 1-2 markings: 1 Rosette, Slot 4

Bushveld + GMC
-100 Scries with 1 Bushveld King + 1 Maziwa: 0 Rosettes
-100 Scries with 1 Sunspot King + 1 Bushveld: 1 EHR, 0 Bushveld Rosettes
-100 Scries with 1 Bushveld King + 1 Mandarin: 0 Rosettes
-100 Scries with 1 Bushveld King + 1 Goridhe: 0 Rosettes
-100 Scries with 1 Bushveld King + 1 Saffron: 1 Inverted Rosette Fallow, 0 Bushveld Rosettes

Bushveld + GMC w/ Rosette
-100 Scies with 1 Bushveld King + 1 GMCS w/ 4 Rosettes: 0 Bushveld Rosettes

Bushveld + GMCR
-100 Scries with 1 10 Marks Bushveld + 1 10 Marks Goridhe: 1 Bushveld Soft Rosette Slot 9

Bushveld + GDCS
-100 Scries with 1 10 Marks Bushveld + 1 10 Marks Kimanjano: 0 Rosettes

Bushveld + Ebony
-100 Scries with 1 Bushveld King + 1 Ebony: 0 Rosettes

It seems like you'll have a higher chance of getting a bushveld rosette with 2 bushveld, but I could be wrong! Odd though that I got 2 of the same random rosettes with the 1000 Scries Idid on the two Bushveld clones



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Edited on 09/04/22 @ 14:48:07 by Sprigatito G1 Quad (#169873)

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Posted on
2022-04-09 15:14:05
Here's the result of 500 scries I just did, since I was curious if Bushveld x Green would yield different results
stud bushveld base, no rosettes or bushveld markings
lioness green base, no rosettes or bushveld markings
bushveld rosettes: none :(
other rosettes: 2 (1 Doubloon HR, one Inverted White, though I clicked through too fast and didn't catch which inverted white it was)



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Edited on 09/04/22 @ 15:45:58 by Lionfish (#4551)

๐Ÿ’œ Ninque (#106221)

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2022-04-09 15:16:37
Thank you! It seems you accidentally posted the stud twice. ^^'



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Posted on
2022-04-09 15:46:15
My bad! It should have the right link now!



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Posted on
2022-04-10 09:00:44
subscribing bc this is kinda fun to figure out.

iโ€™ve always had a theory that rosettes spawned on cubs that have parents that have markings that are similar to rosettes; like lace or panther. from what i can see, the lions being scryed that donโ€™t have the bushveld base do have either a lace or a panther marking. could be something to consider? bushveld base x panther/lace/other similar marking.



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๐Ÿ’œ Ninque (#106221)

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Posted on
2022-04-10 10:00:32
@stella ๐ŸŒผ g2 dense citrine: I love this theory! If it's true, it might work on all Rosettes that spawn randomly, not only Bushvelds. I might try that out at some point.



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Posted on
2022-04-10 10:59:29
I wonder if the reason for it not showing for the green base is because it has to be a passable green base like murk or bushveld? Additionally, has anyone tried to see if its possible for it to appear from the murk base too??
Specially since I think the lioness they used as an example feels like a murk base to me



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Edited on 10/04/22 @ 11:02:32 by ๐“ƒน G3 Withered Ice (#59770)

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2022-04-10 11:05:01
@๐“ƒน G3 Withered Ice: I did scry a Murk lioness a few times but had no luck so far, although I'm planning to try a few more times.
The lionesses used as previews in news posts are designed to showcase the new stuff in the best way possible, so I'm not sure if that's a clue. ^^'



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Buns ๐“ƒนWithered
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Posted on
2022-04-10 11:08:09
Dang I do hope it can be passed unto murk it looks so lovely on it



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Posted on
2022-04-10 14:21:09
in two scurries between https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794158327506 x https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=230541 this popped up!

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I want to ibf her so bad now after this scurry heres hoping!

edit: crumbled and ibfed, right wasn't as kind as scurrying. rip.



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Edited on 10/04/22 @ 15:08:10 by ๐Ÿ‚ saber [g2 subtle dhab] (#114740)

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Posted on
2022-04-10 18:00:45
Okay so if I had to guess it would be Bushveldxgreen/or an April craft-able based on past combo bases just a hunch tho



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