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2022-10-04 16:49:21
I am currently working on a project, we all know the mutations, “primal” “p.ferus” “p.smilus.” And “p.Felis” but for some reason, we don’t have smilodons! This is a tracker for my progress and when I get the art done!

As we know, there is a “smilus” mutation that is strictly male. This Smilodon mutation will be strictly FEMALE

I though this would be a nice idea, since smilodons were real creatures. Here’s a skull replica of one!
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Adult ver:
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some more concept art from a very nice person<3
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how you would breed one:
it NEEEDS to be a female primal to get a chance at a smilodon. not a stud.
its very rare but less than a lethal or hybrid
they have a 25% chance of passing their mutation, making them over 100GB in value


flavour text??

-your lioness gave birth to a strange cub, you thought it was another primal but...look at those teeth! altho hurting its mother while weaning, looks like its doing just fine!
-cub hurt another cub badly at training today. they said it was an accident, should we shave those teeth down?
-cub seems sad. they say everyones scared of them..

100 SUPPORRTTSSS!!!!!


BEGGING FOR CRITICISM AND ADVICE, IF YOU DONT SUPPORT, EXPLAIN!!! (do NOT be rude about it.)



This suggestion has 222 supports and 22 NO supports.



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Edited on 06/10/22 @ 20:32:02 by ItsSpookyTimeBitches (#277793)

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Posted on
2022-10-05 00:16:00
IF they do! XD



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Edited on 06/10/22 @ 19:03:01 by North Raven (They/Them) [Main] (#260680)

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2022-10-05 07:58:46
smiladon's famous teeth did not grow in until they were weaned so those famous teeth would not show up until adolescent art and they did stop growing. I still supported it but yeah that's a fair point



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Edited on 05/10/22 @ 07:59:32 by Wulfraptor (#242597)

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2022-10-05 19:43:33
I like the concept, but there are some pretty glaring issues:

- the lethal thing doesn't really work. Because the upper canines grow downward, they would never curve up unless restricted in such a specific way as to force the growth up, and even then, they wouldn't go so far as to pierce the skull. Even the "teeth too heavy" thing is super unlikely, as we don't have that problem with the Primal Fangs mutation. Also, teeth grow gradually and aren't that heavy in the first place: they would never be too heavy to be supported.

The only way I could see the lethal idea working is if, once the lion got past ~10 y/o, the fangs had a chance of breaking and killing the lioness due to infection/weakened defense.

- that's not how canopic jars work. They don't really bring back a lion from the dead, just freeze it so you can display it in your pride and free up a dynasty spot.

- smilodon was a South and North American species. LD is set largely in Africa (there are lions in India as well, though imo we don't give enough attention to Asiatic lions. I'd also be cool with historic lion ranges being included, ie the Middle East). It would probably be best to stick to those ranges, though I wouldn't be opposed to including some European or Asian species. Other ideas could be Barbourofelidae or something unique and adorable like Proailurus, a super ancient cat ancestor



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2022-10-05 20:18:29
how about we refer it to Machairodus kabir since they were in africa and they were similar to smilodons also Proailurus didnt live in africa from what i found



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Edited on 05/10/22 @ 20:22:07 by Rabid Rat | they/them (#324626)

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2022-10-05 20:20:31
listen, i kniw nothing about smilodons. Except that they were felines and a cool idea. if it gets accepted, EVERYTHING is up to the coders



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2022-10-05 20:22:58
on this being a lethal... that would not be the case... The teeth stop growing at about the point they can hunt for themselves... so they'd be growing in on the adolescent art but fully grown on the adult.



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2022-10-06 09:11:17
Oh no you're good! I agree! I love primals and would love to see more variations, I actually love this idea even if it isnt historically accurate!



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2022-10-06 19:10:29
i do agree we need a female primal mutation! however, your suggestion is incorrect, not only with how extinct smilodon's anatomy has been studied to be, but the games mechanics as well. their teeth grow outward from the skull, so how exactly would they end up piercing through a cubs head? i think that a 25% chance of the mutation to pass without the use of a lion scrot is pretty overpowered, and not something i would recommend. also, a lion can't be both a lethal and living mutation. in my eyes, it should be one or the other, your cub either has a 100% survival rate or not. because when breeding lethals, you already know that the cub is not going to make it through it's life. even deaf lion die at the age of 4. but what happens when you spend hundreds of gb on a smilodon cub that could or could not make it to adulthood? jellyfish don't bring lions back to life, you must apply them to the cubs before their death. also, smilus is a male only mutation that is already based off of the smilodon, so i wouldn't want a female only mutation to be its counterpart, you know? what would make this different than just the female counterpart to smilus? just some food for thought , i would need to see a much more fleshed out idea to support :)



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Edited on 06/10/22 @ 19:34:34 by snowmew [G1 Subtle 3x Ros] (#63212)

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Edited on 05/11/22 @ 18:40:49 by North (They/Them) [Main] (#260680)

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Edited on 05/11/22 @ 18:41:20 by North (They/Them) [Main] (#260680)

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Posted on
2022-10-07 09:54:22
While a cool idea, I would have to vote no support due to my agreement with oops and mew’s critiques.



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2022-11-05 18:49:19
Personally no support. We already have smilus, and we already have tons of female only mutations. I prefer smilus ot be male only. Primals are also suppose to be fairly common. I dont like how you say it would be rare. Even felis/smilus are pretty common to get. IDK how 25% would make them 100 value. The market would be based off of how much people like them and how common they are. Besides gen 2/3 ferus, no primal would ever go for that much.


Because of these reasons, I dont support sorry.



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2022-11-05 19:12:19
adding more cause i just read the comments.

So... Primals aren't lethals and they are 2 completely different categlories. I strongly disagree with a lethal primal. Along with this, the context of primals if that prehistoric lion ancestors ccame back, either from being forced to change back or whatever. This means that since smilodons have such big teeth, they would have evolved to this point (meaning the teeth would benifit them rather than hurt them). Plus I dont understand how the lethal thing after a certain age would work? That doesn't make much sense to me at all. I might just not be understanding what you are saying, so feel free to correct me if I didnt get something.



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2022-11-05 19:13:39
I gave up on this a while ago. It doesn’t matter and I made it when I was a newbie



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