Posted by new lethal idea: SCOLIOSIS (200+ supports)

stanley 🐆
(i’m autistic) (#418835)

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Posted on
2023-02-09 11:09:41
before i kick this off, i want to say i have scoliosis, and would have likely died if i hadn’t received my surgery. i have also read about people who had scoliosis much worse than i did, and nearly did die. i have also checked to see if it was suggested before, and i found MAYBE two posts from a while ago mentioning it
edit: and as #313347 said, it would help give this game a bit more representation for people like myself who have scoliosis and love lions and lioden!
SO, WHAT IS SCOLIOSIS?
scoliosis is an abnormal curvature of the spine, usually in an “S” or “C” shape. it commonly occurs in humans but can occur in other animals, such as dogs, horses, rats, fish, snakes or house cats (closest to our beloved lions). therefore, it could likely occur in lions, but i don’t think any cases have been documented. at least i couldn’t find any
IS SCOLIOSIS EVEN A MUTATION?
simply googling this question reveals it is genetic and hereditary, which causes me to believe it is a mutation. not 100% sure, but let’s say yes
edit: as #313347 stated, anything different genetically can be considered a mutation! eye colors etc
SO HOW WOULD IT SHOW IN LIODEN?
currently, deaf is the only lethal that doesn’t have a 100% chance to kill your lion during the cub stage. i think scoliosis would kill when your lion turns 2, due to being unable to breathe due to their spine and ribs squeezing their lungs. the cubs could look normal, but i think it would start to show in adolescence. if you used the falcon’s eye to check for a mutation in a seemingly normal cub, it would say it has scoliosis, but it still wouldn’t be visible until adolescence, much like how scoliosis can be caught early.
if you don’t support, please tell me why! and if you have any ideas or constructive criticism, please feel free to share! i would love to see this in lioden :)



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Edited on 21/11/23 @ 11:57:28 by stanley 🦜 (i’m autistic) (#418835)

Cat Spit (#461027)

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Posted on
2024-02-08 10:24:15
I also have scoliosis. I think this is a great idea, but I have a couple of suggestions that could build on it (kinda like what Vinny Claws said):

- A fatal version, as suggested, which gets progressively worse. Nothing to add here except that there's at least one captive lion with scoliosis that seems to be a product of inbreeding, so it definitely can occur in lions.

- A nonfatal version, which gives you occasional notifications about your lion having difficulty/pain in daily life starting in adolescence, but is an invisible mutation with no artwork change (representative of invisible disabilities/chronic pain that is not disabling but is still shitty to live with). This version might shorten your lion's lifespan but would not prevent them from reaching adulthood and breeding. (I feel like maybe capping them at 14 years would be reasonable, to represent the increasing problems they'd have with arthritis, hunting injuries, etc. as they got older.)

- If an artwork change was wanted with a nonfatal version, I'd suggest a crooked tail! It'd show that there was something off while still being subtle, and a crooked tail could even be a mutation on its own as well so that you'd have to check to see if it was benign or meant scoliosis.

- If people are interested, this might be a way to introduce more health problem mutations that wouldn't be fatal. I'm thinking of things like polydactyly, club foot, underbite, etc. that would prevent a lion from being an effective hunter or fighter but that would be survivable with the support of a pride.



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