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Posted by | [+194/-14]Make "Will Kill" In Chat Rule |
Fraekinn [Semi Hiatus] (#57572) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-06-04 16:54:26 |
I've recently seen a sharp uptick in people saying things such as; "I'll kill this hybrid/RLC/insert-other-valuable-lion here if it doesn't sell." Its a pretty crummy, and to be honest, kind of guilt-trippy tactic, it also applies undue pressure on potential buyers to make an offer then and there which can result in buyer remorse/potentially overpaying on a lion "because it'll die if I don't." This is a sales tactic banned on many sim sites already, so to be honest I was surprised Lioden was allowing it. I know we're all adults here, but I'm an animal rescuer in real life and have dealt with people actually making these threats to me if I don't collect/take in their animal even when my rescue is full, so it hurts even more to see comments like these thrown about in chat like they mean nothing - and sure, its just pixel lions, a bunch of code, but it's the nonchalance and undue pressure such a phrase generates that's grinding my gears. Maybe I'm overreacting, but I find it to be a low blow/scummy sales tactic and would rather it be removed from the site. Frequent Comments - But this will affect all deadlines on the site?!?!?! I direct you to this comment. |
🌿Crystal🌿 (#231915)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-16 11:41:33 |
Rango (#334921)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-26 17:41:29 |
Thank you so much for suggesting this, it always bothered me but I couldn't put into words why it shouldn't be allowed. Giving a support here and on my side! Like the person below me said 👇 this may be hard to enforce. I think that banning the words “chasing” “abandon” “abandoning” “kill” and “killing” in sales chat and in trade titles would be a good place to start. 3 players like this post! Like? Edited on 27/07/23 @ 09:06:54 by Adam (#334921) |
Corruptedhyena (#243378)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-26 17:47:24 |
My only kinda issue with this is how to make that line clear. I can see this potentially becoming a super gray area of what people think is guilt tripping or just information. I 100% agree to do something about it, but I just worry about the wording of this rule if that makes sense. 2 players like this post! Like? |
Fraekinn [Semi Hiatus] (#57572) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-26 22:35:38 |
@Corrupted Hyena - it would oy affect trade names/chat advertisements. It would not affect people in forums saying things like "I will chase/kill the lions at 1y11m old if they aren't needed." on their sales thread. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Corruptedhyena (#243378)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-27 12:07:29 |
I get that! But unless we are going to prevent everyone from saying that they will kill/chase/etc. A lion or whatever, then there might be an issue as to when it's okay to say that. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Fraekinn [Semi Hiatus] (#57572) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-27 12:16:16 |
It only affects chat really, so like "will kill x if not sold in 10 minutes" but keeps doing it, and its a high value lion that they aren't going to kill - the amount of hybrids, lethals etc I've seen that'll "be killed" to create a false sense of urgency is just, too much. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Corruptedhyena (#243378)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-27 12:35:44 |
I get that! What I'm saying is that in order to prevent loopholes the rule either needs to be for all cases (no matter what you can't say your killing/chasing/etc. a lion in the chats) or the rule needs to be worded very specifically. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Fraekinn [Semi Hiatus] (#57572) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-27 12:37:13 |
That was already covered in my comment linked in the first post :) ""You cannot threaten to kill/chase/nature reserve a lion in a Sales Chat Advertisement, Trade Name or Thread Title."" 0 players like this post! Like? |
Corruptedhyena (#243378)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-27 12:43:47 |
I saw that which is why I felt I needed to make that comment. It can be hard to determine whether someone is saying they will be killed just as information or as guilt tripping. There is no clear line between that. So if that becomes the rule, there becomes a lot of gray area as to whether or not the person was just saying information or using it as guilt tripping. Personally I vote for people not being able to say that at all no matter if it is just for information or for guilt tripping. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Corruptedhyena (#243378)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-27 12:44:44 |
Nervermind I just re-read it. I thought it said you can't say that as a method off guilt tripping rather than you camr say it at all 0 players like this post! Like? |
Fraekinn [Semi Hiatus] (#57572) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-27 12:46:11 |
The line drawn was between threads and chat? You can put a deadline IN a thread, like the body of the topic. "I will be removing/chasing/killing/reserving/portalling the lions when they turn 1y11m." That's fine, because its in the thread, not the thread title, sale advertisement or trade name. This post is to deliberately target it AS a sale tactic. "I'll kill/chase/reserve/portal this is it gets no offers right now." in chat would not be allowed. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Corruptedhyena (#243378)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-27 12:48:37 |
I wasn't talking about the difference between the thread and chat sale. I understand that this is only for chat, but I originally thought the comment said "you can't say that as a guilt tripping method" rather than to "you can not say that at all". Since I thought it said that you can say it as long as it's just information well it is hard to tell if it is just for information rather than for guilt tripping. But as I said in my last comment, I misread what it actually said 1 player likes this post! Like? |
Strikefire♀G1Incen seWickedBO (#238890) Maneater View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-23 00:45:31 |
🍊 marrmalade (#38484)
Prince of the Savannah View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-04-19 17:36:34 |
Found this thread due to bump. I 100% agree, and something like this is definitely needed. Attempting to guilt trip players into buying your lion is very.. not cool. There's absolutely no reason to state what happens to the lion after, it's as easy as saying "This trade will be cancelled after [this many days] if no offers have been made. After the trade / time limit has run out or been cancelled, the lion will no be able to be purchased." 2 players like this post! Like? |