Posted by Mutation: Underbite (500+ SUPPORTS!)

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[Cutlery] 🍴 (#427147)

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Posted on
2023-08-31 14:46:24
Cats can have an underbite, so their lower jaw is slightly extended out showing their bottom teeth! It should be only a small/mild underbite that can act kind of like an amp since in cats, the underbite is mild in kittens and gets worse as they get older. the idea is the underbite will develop from birth, only being a bit visible then getting more pronounced as it ages, since the fangs are failing to be aligned correctly. This could affect the cub's life span due to it having difficulty eating, so it'd be similar to blind/deaf mutated lions.
I suggest the lion could die around 4-5 years since the underbite would've gotten worse, making it near impossible to eat and giving it jaw discomfort.

Its like upside down primal fangs, but with a big chin to go with it.

Concept art (how the underbite looks isnt really decided yet):
(ART MADE BY PussyDestroyer037(flis🏳️‍🌈) (#290579))


Could literally beat Apollyon

[EDITED PART DUE TO FEEDBACK]
"No support for it being inheritable really since only a select few mutations are, and none similar that I can think of are passable like this in-game, but I like the rest of the idea!
Even if a mutation is genetic irl, Lioden tends to stray from that to keep the rarity intact." -Leon. thank you for explaining why you dont support. I understand that pretty much so im gonna make it so its non passable without the use of lion scrots, is that better?


Feel free to critisize or make suggestions! and PLEASE tell me why you dont/do support!

Recordings of supports: (how many supports do we need-)
200 supports, lets GO.
280 supports, we're so close to 300
300 SUPPORTS
400 SUPPORTSSQAWEF (add the big chin lions mods or else >:[)
500 SUPPORTS! Half of 1000!, this is good


Flavour text ideas:

[CUB NAME] is trying to tussle with some other cubs, but they cant seem to get a grip with their mutated fangs!

[CUB NAME] looks particularly mad at you. But you can't really take them seriously because of the way their little teeth stick out from their maw as they glare at you grumpily.

You notice [CUB NAME] sitting down staring at the ground sulkily. You ask them what happened, and they said another cub had been teasing them, and said they look stupid. Aww. You reassure them that they look very clever, and their bottom teeth make them look STRONG!

[Cub] keeps biting the older cubs and trying to bonk them with their chin. Is that allowed?

You go to check on [cub] only confined them staring down a zebra leg and licking their muzzle longingly.

You wake up to [Cub] asking if you could chew their food for them. Ew. You somehow agree because... who could say no to that face?


(After training)
Success:
You are surprised to see that [Cub] actually got the best of their opponent. They say that they bonked the other cub with their huge chin until they quit. Hmm.

Failure:
After watching [Cub] get beat up by the other cub, you console them by giving them their favorite food. Well, after chewing it for them.
(Thanks rainstorm)

(Flavour text ideas from starflesh)
Edited:
-Anon is trying to tussle with some other cubs, but they always seem to slip out of her grasp!

-Anon looks particularly mad at you. But you can't really take her seriously when she’s pouting like that.

New:
You notice Anon staring down a stick, when you approach her she grumbles about not being able to grab it.



I only edited two because the others were good not saying that the ones I edited are bad I just think they could’ve been touched up

(other flavour text ideas from other lovely people)
As you look across the savanna, you see [Lioness] trying to hunt an antelope. She can't seem to get a good grip, and the prey escapes. You console [Lioness] later by hunting it for her.

Birth message?

As you look at [Mom name]'s cubs in delight, you notice one of them can't seem to get a lot of milk in his/her mouth. That's not good.

Suggested ideas:
Maybe it has a small-to-medium debuff in the strength or stamina stats since a lion w/ an underbite would have more trouble biting and holding onto stuff?
- creech


-Ash (Here bc of
Ashe) (#453371)-

Maybe it could have a specific issue where it gets more hungry than other lions, since they can't eat well? Like instead of their hunger dropping by 10%, it'd be like 15% or smth?

Rejected ideas for this mut:
Underbites are a genetic trait in cats, so it COULD be a passable mutation with around 5% chance of passing to offspring?
-reason for rejection:
Not many natural passable muties


Check out my other suggestions!
Bangs mane suggestion



This suggestion has 612 supports and 18 NO supports.



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Edited on 22/02/24 @ 15:10:03 by 🎩Fancy fork [Cutlery] 🍴 (#427147)

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Posted on
2023-09-03 17:49:28
That's a good point!



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Readytest (#431796)

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Posted on
2023-09-03 17:52:58
I stand with my choice of it not having ANY gameplay change but can be inherited and passable



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Posted on
2023-09-05 11:48:52
added art of it (not made by me) Look in the main post!



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Posted on
2023-09-10 16:54:20
Please say why you dont support.



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Readytest (#431796)

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Posted on
2023-09-10 17:10:48
I support this idea -- Just not it being a lethal and being a passable posable mut like Piebald or og teeth/claws/tounge



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PrimalQueen (#205931)

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Posted on
2023-09-12 09:48:12
I support greatly!





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Posted on
2023-09-19 15:45:55
I support, I'd love to own a mega chad lioness with the most chadliest of jawlines



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Posted on
2023-09-19 23:36:24
That is the best sentence I've ever read



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IIV0I [G2|7x Ros|11x
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Posted on
2023-09-20 01:33:37
Thank you, thank you, I thought of it myself



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Posted on
2023-09-21 11:37:27
Support but only if its not heritable. Lion Scrotum is fine.

I also don't see a reason for it to have an in-game effect when Overgrown Tongue / Primal Fangs don't.

Lioden has shown that removing a attribute of a lion causes lethality / in-game effects (Blindness, Clawless, Toothless, ect) but adding does not (Overgrown Tongue, Primal Fangs, Overgrown Claws, Overgrown Teeth.).

I could see a case to make it cause lethality similar to Blindless, but imo it shouldn't have any in-game effect at all as Lioden has shown over and over again adding more is fine for non-cub lethals.

The same case could be made for Overgrown Tongue, as they grow older the tongue would too and result in the lion being unable to breathe as it swells, but they didn't do that, so I don't think they'd do it here either.



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Posted on
2023-10-07 03:33:34
Do you take edited suggestions of the cub Flavour texts?



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Posted on
2023-10-07 03:34:02
Yep, love the flavour text, all suggestions will be added



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Goddess Of Earth (#450166)

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Posted on
2023-10-07 03:34:58
the underbite gives me Crookedstar vibes (warrior cats, RiverClan's leader) so I support this and if I get one I know what I'm naming it



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Posted on
2023-10-07 03:41:24
Changed “Cub Name” to a Female cub named Anon

Edited:
-Anon is trying to tussle with some other cubs, but they always seem to slip out of her grasp!

-Anon looks particularly mad at you. But you can't really take her seriously when she’s pouting like that.

New:
You notice Anon staring down a stick, when you approach her she grumbles about not being able to grab it.



I only edited two because the others were good not saying that the ones I edited are bad I just think they could’ve been touched up



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Edited on 07/10/23 @ 03:42:06 by 🦇Starflesh G2 Pie Ember RLC🦇 (#255968)

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Posted on
2023-10-16 15:05:27
"You notice [CUB NAME] sitting down staring at the ground sulkily. You ask them what happened, and they said another cub had been teasing them, and said they look stupid. Aww. You reassure them that they look very clever, and their bottom teeth make them look STRONG!" IM NOT CRYING U ARE.



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