Posted by No Uterus

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2023-09-26 10:31:04
Alright, my 2nd mutation suggestion today lol
I was just thinking.. "we have two uterus lionesses, why not no uterus!"
@readytest
"Maybe the uterus thing would be a prosthetic and would be avaliable only for March event? Maybe costing March currency to have it, and would be applicable by surgery preformed on humans via anesthesia and proper healthcare?? And a day before the end of the month, the prosthetic starts to be attacked by the immune system and would have to be surgically removed?

Maybe a higher chance of mutations ( higher chances that it's a lethal/semi-lethal mut? )"


EDIT: HOLY HECK THIS IS LONG- I DID NOT EXPECT IT TO BE

Why?
More Muties... lol
Since I know that visual mutations take a very long time, and I understand why there haven't been any in a long time (with the exception of Ticked Pie), why not a coded mutation! There wouldn't have to be any lineart or marking changes, so that should be a relief for the artists. While I love visual mutations, too, I would honestly love just any mutation.

[How It Works]
No Uterus lionesses would still be able to hunt/be broodmothers, just as regular lionesses.
They would have no physical differences.
They would have a set-in-stone 0% fertility, that cannot be raised with chasteberries, cannot be changed with a Vuka-Vuka, and cannot be bypassed with a Black Stallion or Angelic Blessing.

[They Can't Breed, Why Keep Them!??!?]
To hunt. Duh. And as a mutie trophy, same reason people keep clawless lions, maneless lions, etc.
People like muties. People (especially newbies) would be happy with any mutation born in their pride, even if it can't be passed/doesn't change anything visually.
And, we haven't gotten a new mutie in so long, I think people would be happy regardless to get something that isn't a new base or marking
If you are truly unhappy with your lioness not being able to breed, just remove the mutation. It isn't that hard.
[AMP]
This would be an Adult Mutation, as it wouldn't be known until it is time to breed. A dead giveaway would be the 0% fertility, especially if the mother had a high fertility, but hey, stuff happens, lol (and if I remember correctly, the father has a coded fertility that affects breeding, but I could be wrong)
Something that could make it extra-fun and interesting is you wouldn't know as soon as they age up. They would display the standard "this lioness will come into heat in X days" on their page, and you wouldn't actually know until the day you rollover and they are meant to go into heat. On your daily rollover summary, you would get a notification that says
"Lioness Health Notification:
Your lioness, [NAME] was distraught after trying repeatedly to breed. She was in heat, she knows it! She did the math! She went to the Fertility Snake to try and get some medicinal remedies to make the job.. easier on you, but nothing worked. Nothing happened. She went to the Scrying Stone to see what could be wrong with her, and was told the reason she couldn't breed was because she lacks a uterus! Even after comforting her, she is distraught with her situation. "
However, the mutation checker would still show "Adult Autation Present", and that showing after she ages up wouldn't work, so perhaps make this mutation non-checkable? It just appears as a random surprise? Not sure how that would work. We could just not do the not-knowing-until-she-goes-into-heat thing, and make it a regular AMP, but I do think that could make it more fun.

However, I do have reasoning as to why to make it a REGULAR, check-able adult mutation: Finally having a health-impacting AM. All of the adult mutations are just cosmetic (or practical, like DU), making the message that you get somewhat inaccurate. You are told there is "Bad News", but none of them are really bad or actually affecting the lioness.

Anyway, why do you support or no-support? Let me know :D



This suggestion has 17 supports and 39 NO supports.



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Edited on 16/10/23 @ 06:14:23 by Nebula // g3 stellar felis (#434371)

Readytest (#431796)

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Posted on
2023-09-29 21:39:42
Support, has potiental to be an underrated gimmick.

May I suggest some buffs to this? Since ppl are saying that it would be useless, however, lionesses with no uterus would start out their adult lives with a high chance of successful hunting ( not guaranteed tho ) and an artificial/genetically modified lamb uterus would be in the monkey business for smaller amount of SB than a safou fruit, allowing the lioness to breed. It would be a one-time you, however, it would be very cheap ( 50 or 100 SB?? ) and easy to use.



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Posted on
2023-09-30 06:51:54
that seems kinda cool



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2023-09-30 07:19:24
What? These are lions with absolutely no access to healthcare. How would they get access to an artificial lamb uterus? How would they transplant it into a lioness without outright killing her? If by some miracle she survived that, how would she survive the resulting infections? How would she survive her immune system immediately trying to destroy the transplanted uterus? If it doesn't have exactly the right surface proteins on its cells, her immune system will treat it as an invading pathogen and attempt to kill it. This is why we have to test donors to see if they match closely enough- and recipients of transplants usually have to take immunosuppressants until the day they die just to mitigate the risk of the organ being rejected.
Even after all that, if she survived and miraculously the transplant worked, it's a *lamb uterus*- would it even be able to handle a litterful of lion cubs? None of this sounds even remotely possible, not even with access to healthcare- and I heavily disagree with it being implemented into the game, especially as an item in monkey business that can be purchased for a pittance of what a fully-functioning new organ should reasonably cost.
Not sure why lacking a uterus would make a lioness a better hunter as well, but I digress.

The overall idea of a lioness lacking a functional uterus is interesting on its own, and definitely needs some feature to make it more appealing, but making up a new item that can magically circumvent the entire concept of the mutation is not it imo.



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2023-09-30 07:21:25
just a note, i was agreeing with them being more proficient hunters, not the lamb uterus thing
but keep in mind, it is a game with canopic jars to bring things back from the dead, lion shamans, and space jellyfish

but yeah, an item to overwork the mutation seems kind of weird



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2023-09-30 12:41:50
Maybe the uterus thing would be a prosthetic and would be avaliable only for March event? Maybe costing March currency to have it, and would be applicable by surgery preformed on humans via anesthesia and proper healthcare?? And a day before the end of the month, the prosthetic starts to be attacked by the immune system and would have to be surgically removed?

Maybe a higher chance of mutations ( higher chances that it's a lethal/semi-lethal mut? )



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2023-09-30 12:56:26
That would be an interesting mechanic- black market organ sales lol



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Posted on
2023-09-30 14:57:44
ooh, that is interesting



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2023-10-16 06:14:06
I actually like what @readytest said!!!

"Maybe the uterus thing would be a prosthetic and would be avaliable only for March event? Maybe costing March currency to have it, and would be applicable by surgery preformed on humans via anesthesia and proper healthcare?? And a day before the end of the month, the prosthetic starts to be attacked by the immune system and would have to be surgically removed?

Maybe a higher chance of mutations ( higher chances that it's a lethal/semi-lethal mut? )"



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