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| Posted by | Stop Lion Aging - Suggestions |
 Lilu | G1 Symm 7.15.2022 RLC (#365609) Omega View Forum Posts  Posted on 2024-01-16 14:50:48 |
Currently the only way to stop lions from aging is to move them to an account that does not roll over each day. Doing so prevents people from using their accounts each day and technically people are not allowed to sell lions/heats from frozen accounts. I would like to propose the following options: - Hybernation/Frozen Den that costs GB to create/maintain (sort of like feed all/play all or auto nesting) that lion and cubs can be moved in an out of. While in this den they do not age with roll over and cannot be bred until moved into another den. - Oasis item that can be purchased to temporarily stop the aging of a lion/cub that is single use and can be toggled off and resume aging once per item. Another way this could be done is an item to temporarily stop the aging on a lion/cub and a separate item to resume aging. Perhaps this could trigger the use of frozen slots until the aging is resumed? I am open to other suggestions people may have. I understand the point of lions aging during RO but a widespread amount of the user base is using "freezer" accounts to extend their lions life span. It would be amazing to have the ability to do so and keep our prized lions on our main account/benefit from being able to use both of our accounts during events. Thank you ♥ |
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Lilu | G1 Symm 7.15.2022 RLC (#365609) Omega View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 15:47:18 |
I do like the idea of a RO cool down. I think my biggest concern there is for people who have lions at 13 years 10 months but that's already a dangerous time.  1 player likes this post! Like? |
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☾Seidhr☽ | G2 Pecora (#72970) 
Maneater View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 15:49:06 |
I would honestly be comfortable with the CD being two weeks or half of a natural breed cycle to keep it fair. Just without something to bypass the counter imo. 2 players like this post! Like? |
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✧|Tacatto|✧ Haze RLC (#25830)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 15:49:31 |
I was thinking about the trade cooldown being until RO. Making the cooldown too long would risk a lot for some lions, but not having one would be an issue. Someone could put in a 2 year old, wait a while, pull them out to bark or whatever they may need them for, then put them back in at 2 years old the same day. That poor baby would be 2 years old forever. EDIT: Not complaining about a longer cooldown just starting it shouldnt be like 3 weeks or something abnormally long. I do like the idea of a 10 day cooldown! Half a breeding cycle would allow the lady to be free and would allow the lady to have a chance to die, instead of living for decades. 1 player likes this post! Like?Edited on 16/01/24 @ 15:51:28 by ✧|Tacatto|✧ Haze RLC (#25830) |
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Ricky [Git gud lol] (#177615)
Notable Lion View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 15:54:13 |
I mean, sometimes lions have to die. Not wanting a cooldown to keep them alive isn't going to get this idea added to the game. I'd like a 1 RO-10RO cooldown depending on admin's decisions. I also feel like if the subscription runs out, your lions *are* removed, but when it's repaid they are added back to the den maybe without having to suffer the cooldown maybe? And like with clans you can pay ahead of time to keep the den from doing said thing. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Hex (#41384)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 15:55:50 |
Personally I don't mind the idea of a freezer den, however I do think there should be a cost per slot in that cave (maybe 15  per slot?) to keep it relatively fair, as many of the lions people freeze are money machines. I would likely still keep my side frozen most of the time, but it'd be nice to be able to roll it when I want to use my side king and not have to worry about my 13.10yo pon who has decided this line dies with her LOL. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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☾Seidhr☽ | G2 Pecora (#72970)
Maneater View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 15:58:33 |
I was just thinking of making it a bit more fair, but I think two-three weeks is a bit extensive.. I'd be comfy with maybe 3-5 RO's at least before being able to re-add them to the freezer. And at least with FAPA/AN you can add more time before you run out to ensure they're safe, that's what I usually do, rebuy them before they run out so the keep going, because with auto nesting, if it runs out on the last day of your lionesses heat, it won't nest them, and rebuying the nesting doesn't reapply the nest (which is absolutely painful if you're sitting on 15+ un nested lionesses ready to pop at RO) 0 players like this post! Like? |
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✧|Tacatto|✧ Haze RLC (#25830)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 16:00:01 |
Adding to Ricky's part, what if it was something you could assign to a preexisting cave? Like how you can make a lioness a hunter. If you have the subscription you can pick one cave to be a designated frozen cave and when it runs out it turns back into a regular cave. If the lions in it do have a cooldown once the subscriptions end then I could probably suggest a warning in the daily summery like how the kings retirement is. A warning that it is running out and to renew or pay the consequences /lh 0 players like this post! Like? |
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🤎 leon | semi hiatus (#208511)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 16:20:03 |
With a freezer account, a lion can age just one month—the day you roll the freezer, and then you put it back in before rollover. My brain is fried so I can't form a solid picture of the pros and cons of each, but is this a good enough alternative to justify a longer cooldown? Genuine question. I have brain fog lol 0 players like this post! Like? |
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✧|Tacatto|✧ Haze RLC (#25830)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 16:24:11 |
with a freezer account you also lose all access to events and possibly money because of the event items. With a longer cooldown it could keep it more balanced and you can still have full access to events. If the cooldown is too long someone would be more willing to use a freezer friend instead of what this suggestion could bring, but if the cooldown is not there at all, it would be overpowered. I do like the until RO cooldown, like the trading cooldown, but thats just me. I also really like the 5 day cooldown, and I'm ok with the 10 day cooldown. It gives the lady a chance to live and die, instead of being around for 5+ years. A longer cooldown would be an ok price to pay if it means being able to access both accounts again! (btw this is my personal opinion and thoughts!) 1 player likes this post! Like?Edited on 16/01/24 @ 16:24:47 by ✧|Tacatto|✧ Haze RLC (#25830) |
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🤎 leon | semi hiatus (#208511)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 16:27:48 |
Thank you Tacatto! I definitely think there should be some kind of cooldown so the lion ages at least a little. It'd definitely be worth having both accounts to grind in the crazier months. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)
Holy View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 19:40:31 |
On the one hand, I wish I could do this. On the other, Leaderboards would be in shambles. It'd be about who could keep a lion frozen the longest while they amass shit tons of items to shove down their throats, temp unfreeze them, bloat them, and then re-freeze. I have to give a no-support only because I'm an avid leaderboard-er who's fought my way tooth and nail onto several and to the tops of two. I'd be devastated if my chances were ruined because a few players have money to eternally sustain kings to the point the top slots were all 20k+ stats, 50k+ kills and hundreds of thousands of karma. 1 player likes this post! Like?Edited on 16/01/24 @ 19:41:19 by [♰] Yharnam (#112370) |
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✧|Tacatto|✧ Haze RLC (#25830)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 19:43:50 |
They technically already do that by using an account to freeze things on. Also they wouldnt get hungry once in there so there wouldnt be a way to mass feed them stat items, and I dont really see how this would effect karma and kills? Maybe its just me not understanding your explanation, tbh. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)
Holy View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 20:05:44 |
Effectively you're giving these players a ton of backup lions that never risk aging even if the account needs rolled. Means they'd be free to farm with both accounts. A player using a side account to freeze faces a downside: Less income and double the work to sustain the losses versus minmaxing by using both accounts. I think that a GB cost isn't enough to offset how broken a hibernal den is. I think any non-aging lion should remain dead or frozen. 2 players like this post! Like? |
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Lilu | G1 Symm 7.15.2022 RLC (#365609) Omega View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 20:15:26 |
With frozen accounts people are still able to inflate these things if they have enough GB. I've seen people freezing full use egg yolk well into December. We have discussed the idea of a cooldown before a lion could be put back into a freezer type den. The issue with the current function is a) it's technically an exploit that's unmonitoed because it doesn't harm anyone. People may want to roll their accounts without risking losing super old loinss they have no interest of pulling out of that kind of den anytime in the near future. Technically it's against ToS to list heats or sales with lions on frozen accounts AND being unable to keep up with events is a huge downside that's hard to overcome. Especially when your personal goals are just to keep a line alive and 8/8 heats fail. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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☾Seidhr☽ | G2 Pecora (#72970)
Maneater View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-01-16 20:16:39 |
What about keeping it female exclusive? Hunters, broodmothers, females can only be frozen as males require male slots? I'm not sure how they would implement it, but I'm not going to lie I don't really see it being any different than what the do now? Considering hibernating means they won't lose hunger/age, can even make it so hibernal lions cannot hunt/patrol at all while in stasis and have to be removed in order to resume- Which really just brings it back to stat training right now anyways. Not going to lie, I don't think it'd make that much of a difference compared to the overwhelming benefit of hibernal dens/slots that in the long run will be beneficial to multiple aspects of the community without the stress of rule breaking (I.E storing elsewhere and advertising still, listing on threads while the lion isn't in your own dens). 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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