Hyena, you're being a tad passive aggressive with some of your replies [and I'm not the only one seeing it]. You keep pushing that forgetting one thing means forgetting absolutely everything, when in reality it simply isnt that. I read my banners everyday, i check them after going over my pride extremely carefully, and i still happen to miss a cub or two sometimes. It happens, and telling people they're just 'not trying hard enough' in slightly more veiled words isn't the way to approach any kind of suggestion/critique you are making.

I understand that your system works for YOU, but thats just it! it works for you. Not me. Not them. You. Not every system works for every person, and while i agree the management of a pride is ENTIRELY up to the person, forcing a habit of checking upon yourself is extremely hard [which i acknowledge you have mentioned, but this is still my point]. Many of the users on Lioden are noticeably diagnosed with ADHD, or other life-altering disabilities which make that even harder [i am not assuming whether or not you have it, and i frankly don't care, im just stating this bit], and other percentages just happen to be forgetful and even with a absolutely perfect system, people will slip. We get nesting notices in the rollover message, i see this as no different. The argument could be the same for removing it 'it's not needed because I have a system and everyone else should try harder and get one' isnt at all an understanding, or nice argument for one to have.

Also, you've appeared passive aggressive in a couple of your comments there, so I'd suggest toning it down a little as it comes accross as insincere and makes it harder to be civil /lh.

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@silvestre while it is a simulator, it is not an excuse to deny users notifications when their lions are about to die, as in other simulators this is also notified, and the chance of lions running/wolves dying are notified in both sister sites of Lioden LTD. This is no different. The Skull is hardly a warning, especially to a newbie who has no idea about the game and the symbols, has a cute cub and it ends up dying [dont even bring up looking at the wiki, not everyone is that prepared when entering a new game, nor is the wiki link noticeable in the upper right corner to many].

"I mean, simulator game's goal is to make one "live another life", and this one should care about this game. When you just click buttons because game says you should – it's not simulator" - this is ridiculously untrue, it's a warning of something undesireable not happening, not a demand to press a button, nor is it controlling. I know damn well you've been grateful for a notification reminding you of something before, so dont act like you havent /lh.

I am fully aware that you get flavour texts about the cubs in the rollover message, but it doesnt help whatsoever in reminding you to protect them imo.

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in advance, this may be a bit passive aggressive, but dont mind it as im really shitty with tones, and is the reason i use tone tags. I will ignore comments around that as it's irrelevant to this post.

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There's already a warning when cub's at risk of dying. If you don't check your lions (or caves with lions) – you don't care about them then, that's all

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I will rephrase. No Support, because I believe there is enough warning as it is. If my suggestions on how to improve the situation for the user themselves are not deemed useful, its their problems, but being passive agressive about them will not make me change my opinion - I still stand by my non-support. The banner warning is clogged enough as it is and there doesnt need to be more warnings in it, skull icons give a fair enough warning as it is.

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Thats not true at all, did you read anything i said at all to hyena? People miss things. It's a fucking mistake, it's not that deep.

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"I will rephrase. No Support, because I believe there is enough warning as it is. If my suggestions on how to improve the situation for the user themselves are not deemed useful, its their problems, but I still stand by my non-support, as it is my opinion and I have the right to it. The banner warning is clogged enough as it is and there doesnt need to be more warnings in it, skull icons give a fair enough warning as it is."

I do agree with that reasoning! My only personal issue was the other reasoning behind it. I do sympathise that the amount of banners/notifications is a tad annoying. perhaps the regular cub 'roleplay' notifs could be changed into just basic 'this cub is going to die soon, better protect it!' rather than adding a new. then at least it's somewhere and it's told directly to your face [like nesting]

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To be clear I specifically said on the individual cubs page to avoid the issue of a congested den page warnings.

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I do also agree with that! like how it's mentioned on the pregnant lioness's page right?

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"People miss things. It's a fucking mistake, it's not that deep"

If they forget that cub's at risk of dying after going to this page of cub after seeing skull near his name and after seeing low survival chance on it's page – its def not game's problem

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I do not mind very much that banner being on the cubs' pages - like lionesses have when they run next rollover, although it still wont be very helpful still if the habit isnt changed, so its neutral for me, neither support nor non-support - but I do object squeesing even more information into the poor Den banner. It already has so much stuff on it its getting hard to read and easy to miss stuff in it.

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Support!
We have notifications for nests, hunger, moods, and if a lion might run! It's completely logical to have a "Hey your cub isn't protected please protect it."

The skull thing can be confusing. I've been playing since 2017 and I didn't realize the lightning bolt meant a lion is going to run on rollover till this year!

While we do have a notification for if a cub loses survival %, not all cubs lose survival daily. People can be forgetful!

I'd suggest it should be a toggle for those who don't want to have more banners or notifications <3

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And since when did i ever blame the game for literally pointing out that I forgot? Ive already stated this, and that doesnt at all mean I Purposefully neglect my lions and dont care about them enough to protect them as you put it. I forgot things easily, could be a disorder, no idea im not diagnosed. Some people are though, and telling them they're 'neglectful' is insensitive. A mistake really isnt that deep, but what you're saying is just something I cannot fathom to put up with. Telling anyone in general they're 'neglectful' and 'dont love their lions' because they simply either happen to COINCIDENTLY miss or god forbid forget about is also insensitive and i suggest you look at it in a less insulting way to put it nicely.

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I agree hyena! The banners on our denpage do get overlooked from time to time, but i do often refer to them if not my rollover message if i think im forgetting something.

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supporting!
even tho i am a diehard fapa user i think a extra lil cautionary banner or message would be helpfull, back when i didnt have fapa and used to manually feed/play with my lions i would occasionally forget a cub or two(or only play with it once when it needed more) and the cub would die. it’s especially disheartening because you cannot reclaim cubs, as they literally just die instead of running away.

as espen said i think this would appease both crowds if this was a toggle feature, so those who may think it’s unnecessary can disable it!

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I would like having the option to assign a broodmother from the cub's page, I've seen cubs that need to be protected then left their page to find a broodmother, and by the time I find one with an open spot I've forgotten who needed to be protected...

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@kara thats exactly what I do! Or i have to step away from the computer and have no idea why im on a lionesses page. alternatively, i go to assign a lioness the broodmother role get there and have a moment and forget.

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Yep exactly lol

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