Posted by Base breeding item

[HM] Vayae (#107100)

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2017-09-03 12:52:28
We have ochre gnawrock. We have ochre saltslick. One of the items allows us to be sure to pass a marking, the other the mane colour.
What about the base?

Well, we all know that right bases are a pain to make - and it's good! It makes things hard for us and makes achieving some goals more satisfying!
However, looking at how breeding sidereal, celestial or other bases that are exceptionaly hard goes, I think we could really use a small boost sometimes.

Now remember I am not talking about 100% chance of given base while using the item!

Another thing to note is that this item would be only very expensive event item - no option to buy it through oasis or any other way
What I think we could use is really a small boost. Now I have a few ideas how to do that!

I will be referring to this lioden wiki page
I will also do tables for better explanation of how that would work later

1. Increasing rarity pass chance


This base breeding item would give us a higher chance of special bases!
Would be helpful for breeding both rare bases (such as lilac or sidereal) and breed only bases (cinnabar, ebony)
For example, if it's common x common, then instead of 0% of special base, the chance would rise to, say, 30% (special x special chance)
For common x special the chance could be 45%, and for special x special the chance could be 60% (as I understand that 100% of special base is a bit overpowered)
This would help some breedin projects a lot for sure, even if not guaranting the special base!



2. Giving a higher chance of the parents base


This is more for a rare base breeding and should be more restricted to not be too overpowered. We don't want the numbers if sidereals to drastically increase now, do we?

Let's say you own an ice based lion and they are gettin older. You want them to pass the base asap, so you breed them with another, slate based lion. Normally you have 30% chance of special with a very low chance if this special being ice. But what if this chance would increase?
In this scenario this item would NOT increase the chance of special, but only of this exact base you want to breed. It is nowhere stated what is the exact chance of ice passing from that exact breeding, so let's say it's 5%. The item would make the chance of ice passing up to, say, 15%. It's a slight but meaningful boost that can save our souls sometimes.


Support! but it'd probably Limited to certain bases excluding sunset Skyward, and Celestial which is right now the most expensive bases out there. 🔮 𝒪𝓇𝒶𝒸𝓁𝑒 (#89197)


I offer full support as long as celestial, sunset, skyward, etc are excluded Sleeping With Sirens (#118875)


Those are the two ideas of this that I have! Which one do you prefer? Or maybe you have your own? Share your thoughts!

If you don't support, please, tell why!



This suggestion has 64 supports and 13 NO supports.



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Edited on 03/09/17 @ 13:52:16 by Vayae [Ayeva] (#107100)

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Birds|Dawn Dros| (#118875)

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2017-09-03 13:00:03
No support, sorry. I do understand why it seems beneficial, but for the people that breed for special bases and make GB that way, it won't be that good. Even if the item happens to be expensive, every percent helps and every special base born is a chance to breed another special base, and so on. The bases are hard to pass for a reason, sadly.
It is definitely a good idea, but I don't think it's a /good/ idea to add an item in for either idea, for now at least.



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[HM] Vayae (#107100)

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2017-09-03 13:06:21
I understand and thank you for your opinion :)
Though even now, when ochre gnawrock exists and gives you a 100% chance of passing the marking, mottled rosette and other rosettes are very expensive - and desired, too. I think people who make gb that way would make even more gb through buying this item and putting it to use.
But that is my opinion, and I do respect yours!



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2017-09-03 13:09:22
Ooh, that is true- but I worry about people overusing the item and making the celestial collection of bases far too popular
There's a huge gap between rosette prices and the 100GB+ that sunsets sell for



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2017-09-03 13:19:38
Maybe instead of having it as a oasis item it could be a event item in one of the events that has a lot of applicators as well like October's event or aphrodisia that means you can't get it year round and there wouldn't be a massive amount of sidereals and ice bases etc



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[HM] Vayae (#107100)

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2017-09-03 13:23:30
I never mentioned it as being oasis item~ I actually did mean for it to be event item, so let me correct it! (I seem to have forgotten to mention it)
But yeah, this way it would prevent the flood! Especially since you can't technically buy an incredible amount of event currency.

Maybe it would even be a reward for an event storyline? Like we had sidereal blessing and such? So limited to one/user (if everyone would finish the storyline, that is), but looking at the blade mane app prices it is not as good idea :)



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2017-09-03 13:25:24
I actually like the idea of it being for event currency, as long as the price is decently high



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[HM] Vayae (#107100)

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2017-09-03 13:30:19
Well, in my opinion it would have to be very high too, definitetly relatively higher than ochre gnawrock's price, maybe higher than GMO cow or buffy balls.



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2017-09-03 13:32:59
I support i'd love my Nookie to pass on some Etheral's and I'd love my Unholy to pass her unholy pass 100% Support! but it'd probably Limited to certain bases excluding sunset Skyward, and Celestial which is right now the most expensive bases out there.



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Horizon (#95695)

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2017-09-03 13:33:06
Mm I agree



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2017-09-03 13:40:30
Yes, I offer full support as long as celestial, sunset, skyward, etc are excluded



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2017-09-03 13:41:51
Well, let's cheers to this (sorry your names sleeping with sirens, I had to)



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2017-09-03 13:47:03
Oml Horizon



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[HM] Vayae (#107100)

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2017-09-03 13:48:42
While I do not agree that these bases should be excluded I will post that in the main post as a possible option, since you guys seem to agree on this point!



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2017-09-03 13:50:28
Maybe those bases should have their own separate item with a range for a pass rate?? An additional 1-10% at random, or something like that



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[HM] Vayae (#107100)

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2017-09-03 13:54:28
I think just lower boost for those exact bases would be nice. So in breeding of, let's say, Ice and Celestial if you used it on ice you would get that 15% chance of ice if you rolles special base, but if you used it on celestial the boost would be lower (like 10% chance; I do not know what are the exact chances of rolling "special" special base out of such breeding since this is nowhere mentioned so take those percentages as just representation of an idea)

Although the random boost seems like a really cool idea too :O



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Edited on 03/09/17 @ 13:56:00 by Vayae [Ayeva] (#107100)







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